Saturday, December 06, 2008

RE: Putin: US Infected The World With Crisis

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Date: Dec 5, 2008 2:50 AM

Eddie NWO Censored

December 04, 2008 - There is hope for better relations with the US when the new administration in takes over, according to Vladimir Putin, The Prime Minister was answering questions from the public during his annual televised Q&A session

RE: Rockefellers "Joked" About Controlling The World

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Date: Dec 5, 2008 7:47 AM

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Rockefellers "Joked" About Controlling The World
Elitist sons would carve up the planet into different thiefdoms, "something really behind the joke," admits biographer
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, December 18, 2007

The elitist Rockefeller sons would sometimes "joke" about which parts of the world they would each control according to biographer Peter Collier, carving the world up into different thiefdoms. Collier's admission that there was "something really behind the joke" is an understatement considering the revelations of the late Aaron Russo about what Nicholas Rockefeller told him.

The admission is taken from a segment of a History Channel documentary about the Rockefeller family which hit You Tube today.

"Sometimes they would joke about it, they would say well David gets Europe, Nelson's gonna have Latin America, and you know John D. the third gets Asia and then they'd make some joke about what Winthrop got, you know which would be something like Arkansas - but nonetheless there was something really behind the joke," states Peter Collier, who wrote a glowing biography of the family with top Neo-Con and former Marxist David Horowitz.

Watch the clip.

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=Lb-5DYxbHf0

Of course the so-called "joke" was a thin veil for the fact that by the end of the 1950's the Rockefellers had become the pre-eminent elitist family and controlled huge swathes of economies, infrastructure, media and business worldwide.

Revelations on behalf of the late Aaron Russo concerning what Nicholas Rockefeller told him about his family's predatory control of the planet were explicit in their honesty and scale.

Nick Rockefeller told Russo in advance that an "event" would precipitate the invasion of Afghanistan so the U.S. could run oil pipelines through the country before invading Iraq and establishing military bases throughout the Middle East. He also stated that we would see soldiers looking in caves in Afghanistan and Pakistan for Osama bin Laden and that there would be an "Endless war on terror where there's no real enemy and the whole thing is a giant hoax," so that "the government could take over the American people," according to Russo, who said that Rockefeller was cynically laughing and joking as he made the astounding prediction. This was all related to Russo nearly a year before 9/11 happened.

Rockefeller also related how members of the elite were obsessed by creating a world identification society where people had to carry ID cards and prove who they were at all times.

During one conversation, Rockefeller asked Russo if he was interested in joining the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) but Russo rejected the invitation, saying he had no interest in "enslaving the people" to which Rockefeller coldly questioned why he cared about the "serfs.
"I used to say to him what's the point of all this," said Russo, "you have all the money in the world you need, you have all the power you need, what's the point, what's the end goal?" to which Rockefeller replied (paraphrasing), "The end goal is to get everybody chipped, to control the whole society, to have the bankers and the elite people control the world.
Rockefeller also told Russo that his family's foundation had created and bankrolled the women's liberation movement in order to destroy the family and that population reduction was a fundamental aim of the global elite.

Watch a clip of Russo's interview with Alex Jones in which he details the admissions of Rockefeller below.

http://video. google. com/videoplay?docid=1263677258215075609&q=Russo%27s+interview+with+Alex+Jones&total=47&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
The History Channel documentary also mentions the Rockefeller's involvement in population control in the clip below.

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=8XrGINLd_r8

http://www. prisonplanet. com/articles/december2007/121807_rockefellers_joked. htm



RE: URGENT!!! Swat Team conducts food raid in rural Ohio!!!

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Swat Team conducts food raid in rural Ohio

December 4, 2008

Source: http://www. crossroad. to/articles2/08/swat-team. htm

On Monday, December 1, a SWAT team with semi-automatic rifles entered the private home of the Stowers family in LaGrange, Ohio, herded the family onto the couches in the living room, and kept guns trained on parents, children, infants and toddlers, from approximately 11 AM to 8 PM. The team was aggressive and belligerent. The children were quite traumatized. At some point, the “bad cop” SWAT team was relieved by another team, a “good cop” team that tried to befriend the family. The Stowers family has run a very large, well-known food cooperative called Manna Storehouse on the western side of the greater Cleveland area for many years.

There were agents from the Department of Agriculture present, one of them identified as Bill Lesho. The search warrant is reportedly supicious-looking. Agents began rifling through all of the family’s possessions, a task that lasted hours and resulted in a complete upheaval of every private area in the home. Many items were taken that were not listed on the search warrant. The family was not permitted a phone call, and they were not told what crime they were being charged with. They were not read their rights. Over ten thousand dollars worth of food was taken, including the family’s personal stock of food for the coming year. All of their computers, and all of their cell phones were taken, as well as phone and contact records. The food cooperative was virtually shut down. There was no rational explanation, nor justification, for this extreme violation of Constitutional rights.

Presumably Manna Storehouse might eventually be charged with running a retail establishment without a license. Why then the Gestapo-type interrogation for a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge? This incident has raised the ominous specter of a restrictive new era in State regulation and enforcement over the nation’s private food supply.

This same type of abusive search and seizure was reported by those innocents who fell victim to oppressive federal drug laws passed in the 1990s. The present circumstance raises the obvious question: is there some rabid new interpretation of an existing drug law that considers food a controlled substance worthy of a nasty SWAT operation? Or worse, is there a previously unrecognized provision(s) pertaining to food in the Homeland Security measures? Some have suggested that it was merely an out-of-control, hot-to-trot ODA agent, and, if so, this would be a best-case scenario. Anything else might spell the beginning of the end for the freedom to eat unregulated and unmonitored food.

One blogger familiar with the Ohio situation has reported that:

“Interestingly, I believe they [Manna Storehouse] said a month or so ago, an undercover ODA official came to their little store and claimed to have a sick father wanting to join the co-op. Both the owner and her daughter-in-law had a horrible feeling about the man, and decided not to allow him into the co-op and notified him by certified mail. He came back to the co-op demanding to be part of it. They refused and gave him names of other businesses and health food stores closer to his home. Not coincidentally, this man was there yesterday as part of the raid.

The same blog also noted that the Ohio Department of Agriculture has been chastised by the courts in several previous instances for its aggression, including trying to entrap an Amish man in a raw milk “sale,” which backfired when it became known that the Amish believe in a literal interpretation of “give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away” (Matthew 5:42)

The issue appears to be the discovery of a bit of non-institutional beef in an Oberlin College food service freezer a year ago that was tracked down by a county sanitation official to Manna Storehouse. Oberlin College’s student food coop is widely known for its strident ideological stance about eating organic foods. It seems that the Oberlin student food cooperative had joined the Manna Storehouse food cooperative in order to buy organic foods in bulk from the national organic food distributor United, which services buying clubs across the nation. The sanitation official, James Boddy, evidently contacted the Ohio Department of Agriculture. After the first contact by state ODA officials, Manna Storehouse reportedly wrote them a letter requesting assistance and guidelines for complying with the law. This letter was never answered. Rather, the ODA agent tried several times to infiltrate the coop, as described above.
When his attempts failed, the SWAT team showed up!

Food cooperatives and buying clubs have been an active part of the American landscape for over a generation. In the 1970s, with the rise of the organic food industry (a direct outgrowth of the hippie back-to-nature movement) food coops started up all over the country. These were groups of people who freely associated for the purpose of combining their buying power so that they could order organic food items in bulk and case lots.
Anyone who was part of these coops in the early era will remember the messy breakdown of 35 pounds of peanut butter and 5 gallon drums of honey!

These buying clubs have persisted and flourished over the years due to their ability to purchase high quality organic foods at reduced prices in bulk quantities. Most cooperatives have participated greatly in the local agrarian economies, supporting neighborhood organic farmers with purchases of produce, eggs, chickens, etc. The groups also purchase food from a number of different local, regional and national distributors, many of them family-based businesses who truck the food themselves. Some of these food cooperatives have become large enough to set up mini-storefront operations where members can drop in and purchase items leftover from case lot sales. Manna Storehouse had established itself in such a manner, using a small enclosed breezeway attached to their home. It was a folksy place with old wooden floors where coop members stopped by to chat and snack on bags of organic corn chips.

The state of Ohio boasts the second largest Amish population in the country. Many of the Amish live on acreages where they raise their own food, not unlike Manna Storehouse, and sell off the extras to neighbors and church members. There is a sense of foreboding that this state crackdown on a longstanding, reputable food cooperative operation could adversely impact the peaceful agrarian way of life not only for the Amish, but homeschoolers and those families living off the land on rural acreages. It raises the disturbing possibility that it could become a crime to raise your own food, buy eggs from the farmer down the road, or butcher your own chickens for family and friends – bustling activities that routinely take place in backwater America.

The freedom to purchase food directly form the source is increasingly under attack. For those who have food allergies and chemical intolerances, or who are on special medical diets, this is becoming a serious health issue. Will Americans retain the right to purchase food that is uncontaminated by pesticides, herbicides, allergens, additives, dyes, preservatives, MSG, GMOs, radiation, etc.? The melamine scare from China underscores the increasingly inferior and suspect quality of modern processed institutional foods.
One blog, commenting on the bizarre and troubling Manna Storehouse situation, observed that:

“No one is saying exactly why. At the same time the FDA says it it safe to eat the 40% of tainted beef found in Costco's and Sam's all over the nation. These farm raids are very common now. Every farmer needs to fully eqiped [sic] for the possibility of it happening to them. The Farmer To Consumer Legal Defense Fund was created just for this purpose. The USDA just released their plans to put a law into action that will put all small farmers out of business. Animals for the sale of meat or milk will only be allowed in commercial farms, even the organic ones.
” December 3, 2008 7:09 PM

RE: Sir! No Sir! The Gi Revolt

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RE: Milwaukee Neighborhoods Could Print Own Money - THE Answer!

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Date: Dec 5, 2008 2:14 PM

From: MAX FAN (Cowboys/LSU/Ron Paul2012/NASCAR)
Date: Dec 5, 2008 11:15 AM

-- this is the answer to get the NWO outta the way! Abe Lincoln did it successfully and we must demand that our elected liars do it too! Watch this for the facts: http://video. google. com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

Milwaukee neighborhoods could print own money

2 neighborhoods consider printing own currency for exclusive use in local stores

By Erika Slife | Tribune reporter
December 3, 2008

They may be talking funny money, but it's not funny business.

Residents from the Milwaukee neighborhoods of Riverwest and East Side are scheduled to meet Wednesday to discuss printing their own money. The idea is that the local cash could be used at neighborhood stores and businesses, thus encouraging local spending. The result, supporters hope, would be a bustling local economy, even as the rest of the nation deals with a recession.

"You have all these people who have local currency, and they're going to spend it at local stores," said Sura Faraj, a community organizer who is helping spearhead the plan. "They can't spend it at the Wal-Mart or the Home Depot, but they can spend it at their local hardware store or their local grocery store.

Incentives could be used to entice consumers into using the new money. For example, perhaps they could trade $100 U.S. for $110 local, essentially netting them a 10 percent discount at participating stores.

And it's completely legal.

As long as communities don't create coins, or print bills that resemble federal dollars, organizations are free to produce their own greenbacks—and they'd don't even have to be green.

In Wisconsin, could that mean dough that looks like cheese?


I believe banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies! If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, 1st by inflation, then by deflation, the banks & corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
~ Thomas Jefferson 1802



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RE: Police Against the New World Order

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RE: They Live, they Control and they Feed

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From: Saladin Votes For ANARCHY!
Date: Dec 5, 2008 11:24 AM

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Friday, December 5
They Live, they Control and they Feed.

Well… let’s start off with something we don’t hear much discussion about and that would be about Bush buying a huge parcel of land in Paraguay. You may scan the various articles at your leisure. You’ll find sometimes they are talking about Little Boots Bush and sometimes they are talking about Domitian Daddy, Bush senior. That the son preceded the father in the analogies doesn’t mean anything.

Paraguay has a history of being a Nazi getaway so the choice of this country shouldn’t be surprising in the least. I throw this information in just to say that the Bush’s and their associates, all poker buddies of Asmodeus and Abaddon, have got their bolt holes secured for the coming world upheaval. They probably don’t know that the demons they play cards with are not their friends but only around for the purpose of accompanying them to their future ‘long term’ homes.

As you read some of these links you find that Stepford Wife, Laura and the genetically engineered Jenna the Hut are also playing footsie in Paraguay which may be not unlike ‘picking your feet in Poughkeepsie’. I imagine that part of the attraction for Bush Sr. is a closer proximity to certain aspects of his dope operations but, maybe not, since he’s pretty global. I’m supposing there may be less hassle about the age of his alleged love interests but I doubt it much matters where he is in that regard. I don’t know if the rumors are true. I do know that he/they is/are capable and guilty of much, much worse so it wouldn’t be a big deal for him.

I don’t know if these things are true. I do know that these people have no moral compass and are not burdened with a conscience so that they would certainly do anything they wanted to, any time they felt like it. These people are monsters.

One of the things I’ve been doing lately is to be reading up on the economy and the forces that are driving it in the direction it is headed. I’ve looked into this derivatives thing and I’ve looked at the wealth disparities and the rate of income increase for the various percentiles of wealth. I’ve looked into the toxic loans and who sold them to the unsuspecting buyers .I’ve tried to see who has been hurt the most and who profited from it. I’ve looked at the banks that have gone south and the banks that don’t get mentioned and who haven’t experienced terminal status. I’ve looked at a lot of related things and I can tell you that I don’t like reading about finance and don’t have much interest in it.

The picture I have been getting tells me several things. You have to understand that I’m not the sort of guy who’d be tapped to act as a financial writer or a financial policeman. Still… it looks to me like this has all been engineered as part of the plan to impose mass suffering upon a large portion of the human race and it seems as if the motive is to provoke them into destroying each other, leaving only a selection of the elite and those who are preserved to serve them as a permanent underclass. There doesn’t seem to be any other motive. You look at it and you tell me.

There’s a really badly done movie called “They Live” by John Carpenter. The acting is atrocious, with wrestler, Roddy Piper, in the main role. The direction is pretty shabby too. But the plot and the way the overseers are presented is chilling. Many other people have noted the power of the imagery and what it says about the world in which we live. There’s no doubt in my mind that something like this -e cosi- is going on. I can watch people going through the motions of their lives and it’s apparent they are being herded in some B.F. Skinner/ Pavlovian sort of a way.

The world financial system is crashing. You haven’t seen anything yet. This is what my cursory investigations have told me. It is interesting to see how the press handles it. There’s a sense of same old, same old business as usual going on and it’s no big deal even when they say it’s a big deal. It seems as if there are powerful, subliminal messages that impact through sight and sound but are hidden from the recognition portion of the mind.

You can’t even have a decent terror attack these days without a whole bunch of annoying questions. Like, how could ten guys create such damage and why are they saying that some of the terrorists were staying at Nariman house for two weeks before the period of assault? Whatever happened to the real, wild-eyed cats that cooked up some explosives in a back room and then blew up an embassy or a government building? Are any of them still around, even? Imperialism and corporate super swine have swallowed up every area where entrepreneurs once thrived. They drove the small businessman out of the illegal drug trade and now they’ve driven the legitimate terrorists into taxicabs and Falafel Shops. As a result the quality of drugs has gone down and the terror body counts have gone up.

The whole shebang is now a seamless enterprise for the benefit of the few who are now using the immanence of financial meltdown as a cover for all the other triggers and turning points that are part of the carnival ride which ends in an entropic swamp or the soon to be ubiquitous McMassgrave locations or FEMA Concentration Camp Theme Parks.

You can’t tell me that everyone is as stupid as they are pretending to be. Yes, the MSM doesn’t hire anyone who doesn’t toe the company line but wouldn’t you think there would be hundreds of disaffected former employees, whose small shreds of integrity got over looked when they hired them? Now they’re on the street because some faint flashbacks of a formerly sunlit world where they were someone different; not all twisted and corrupted as they became, got in the way of their formerly non-stop lying ways. Yeah… there’s something going on behind the scenes. I keep saying it because it keeps coming up for me. I figure you find out what ‘that’ is and you have found out what you need to know.

This thing with Obama’s birth certificate won’t go away and Clarence ‘the clown’ Thomas stuck his toe into the oil slick and not because he wanted to see a rainbow on the nail. I don’t believe in accidents and Clarenzo was one of the players in the illegal investiture of Little Boots Bush into the White House. I’m doubtful that Obama wasn’t born here… of course the whole thing could have been set up way back and there’s your martial law trigger like it had eyes.

You know its coming. You see it. You hear about it every day. It is only a matter of when. All those constitutional guarantees getting hammered and this Homeland Security thing now run by some of the major players in the attack that birthed it. The soldiers being deployed… the fears and threats… the whispers. The spying and the torture along with the airport dehumanization’s, while the jobs and incomes disappear under the umbrella of a manufactured, financial meltdown. The retail industry can’t survive what’s coming.

Since you and I can see it happening, the only questions is, why? Why are they doing it? If you throw in the seeming food and fuel shortages and the civil unrest that is bound to follow along with the wars necessary to motivate the economy, your eyes finally swivel around to the population explosion and what to do about all these people. Then you might think about the eugenics considerations of certain particular, wealthy psychopaths and a picture begins to emerge.

Swine flu is walking on two legs through the arcade. I realize that this is just more talk about the same things but it is apparent there are a lot of questions we aren’t getting any answers to. Meanwhile, Hannibal Lecter is browsing through his Dean and Deluca picnic box.


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DO NOT BUY ANY SOY OR CORN THAT IS NOT ORGANIC OR YOU DIRECTLY VOTE FOR AND FINANCIALLY SUPPORT CODEX AILEMENTARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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It's great that kids are there too....
get some peeps from NYC, fix it up in a few mins

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The Georgia Guidestones ( The New World Order's 10 Commandments) LMAO!


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This idiot is actually supporting the GG. I reamed his ass and he put this pic up instead of his original.

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Date: Dec 5, 2008 8:49 PM

Read the article below for the amazing details of this Discovery Channel "Mythbusters" upcoming 2 hour special on what really happened at the WTC and Pentagon...with the possibility of a Building 7 and Shanksville special later if this one works out well with sponsors! Write them and encourage them to get the help and cooperation of the people who have taught us all what really happened on 9-11-01 over the last 6 years.

You know they will have to wait until Bush is out of the Oval Office...but then we may get the ball rolling on national opinion! I can't wait...but I sure hope their agenda isn't more disinfo propaganda like BBC's hit piece a year ago!
I am sure we will all raise BLOODY HELL if that's what it turns out to be! The Truth will set us free!!!!

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Discovery Communications, Inc. (DCI) is an American global media and entertainment company that was launched in 1985 and began as a single channel — the Discovery Channel. The slogan of Discovery Communications, LLC is "The number-one nonfiction media company."DCI both produces original programming and acquires content from producers worldwide. This non-fiction programming is offered through DCI's 28 network entertainment brands, including Discovery Channel, TLC (The Learning Channel), Animal Planet, Discovery Health Channel, Discovery Kids and a family of digital channels. DCI also distributes BBC America, BBC World, and Travel Channel to cable and satellite operators in the United States.

MythBusters is a popular science television program produced by Australian firm Beyond Television Productions[1] originally for the Discovery Channel in the United States. Beyond Television Productions is a subsidiary of the Australian company Beyond International. The company is involved in the creation and international exploitation of television, feature films and ancillary products.

http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=LiMMjVmbsWk

THE MYTHBUSTERS HAVE FINALLY given in to the pressure the producers have been under for several years. The show asks the viewers to send their favorite myth in via the internet for the show to consider. Upon receiving their 1 million request dealing with the various September 11th theories, the producers finally cracked.

The 2 hour special slated for an unreleased date in 2009 and will be titled WORLD TRADE CENTER. The program will feature the top 2 most requested WTC theories, controlled demolition and CGI planes - more commonly known as TV fakery. The show will also feature a 20 minute tribute to the Pentagon missile theory conducted by Kari Byron, Grant Imahara,and Tory Belleci. Meanwhile,the stars of the show Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman will be putting their reputation on the line with the WTC experiments.

The show will feature a 1/3 scale replica of the towers at an estimated $7.2 million price tag. The replica is rumored to have been built outside of the United States to avoid airspace restrictions that they would have encountered at home. The location of the replica towers has remained a secret from the press as gag orders were imposed on the private contractors. The total cost of the production has reportedly amounted to a whopping $25 million, which the Discovery Channel believes it will reclaim by selling Super Bowl priced ads during the 2 hour event. The Discovery Channel expects the special to be the highest viewed non sport related program in history. It has been reported that an anonymous aerospace company donated a miniature Boeing built to Jamie and Adams specifications that will be 1/3 the mass, weight,and size, of a real Boeing and will carry 1/3 the amount of fuel as well. Preliminary flight test have been performed by a custom Cessna as the mini-Boeing has been under lock and key parked in an undisclosed private hanger.

"We received so many different request dealing with September 11th that we decided on the top 3" explained Jamie Hyneman. Adam Savage continued by saying, "I wish our budget and time table could have allowed us to do some of the others that I found interesting, such as, the WTC 7 collapse and the lack of debris in Shanksville. Maybe if we survive this special, we can do those on a future show.

RE: Primitive fishing hook

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RE: Mr. Obama’s Eligibility to be Aired Monday in DC

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Date: Dec 5, 2008 11:09 PM

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Mr Obama’s Eligibility to be Aired Monday in DC
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Date: Dec 5, 2008 10:38 PM

http://www. wethepeoplefoundation. org/UPDATE/Update2008-12-05. htm

December 5, 2008

Mr.. Obama’s Eligibility to be Aired

Monday in DC

Open Letter Ignites Large Public Interest

What Must A Free People Do?

As planned, on Monday and Wednesday of this week, WTP published the full-page Open Letter to Mr.. Obama in the Chicago Tribune.. The letter respectfully requests that he direct the state of Hawaii to provide access to his original 1961 (“vault”) birth certificate, and that he arrange for delivery to the National Press Club of certain other documents, all for the purpose of providing evidence of his eligibility..

The public response and attention by the media, has been nothing short of astonishing..

Apparently, the publication of the Open Letter and huge reaction it generated has largely forced the media to finally acknowledge the existence of the Obama citizenship controversy, apparently abandoning the desires of their collective management to smother the story..

Almost immediately after the paper hit the streets of Chicago Monday morning, requests started coming in for interviews from print, broadcast and on-line news outlets, including several clear- channel (reserved frequency, high-wattage AM) radio stations from around the country.. It’s been non-stop all week.. Here is a link to an audio recording of a brief interview with WGN, Chicago’s leading 50,000 watt, clear-channel radio station..

On Tuesday, December 2, the Tribune’s local competitor, the Chicago Sun-Times published a column by Mary Mitchell about the open letter.. Granted, columnists do take liberties, but her column was not only riddled with important factual errors, it was largely “over-the-top” and arguably inflammatory, referring to me indirectly as one of the “skinheads from Tennessee who planned to dress up in coattails and top-hats and go on a racist killing spree before targeting Obama..”& In response, thousands of Chicagoans flooded the Sun-Times with their comments, both pro and con.. I am preparing a rebuttal that will soon be sent to the paper as a suggested “guest essay..”

On Wednesday, the Tribune published a news article by Sara Olkon and James Janega about the Open Letter.. It too, contained serious omissions, as well as false and misleading statements regarding critical parts of the citizenship controversy.. In response, thousands of Chicagoans flooded the Tribune with their comments, pro and con.. We are preparing a rebuttal to be submitted as soon as possible..

Overnight Letter to Mr.. Obama

Yesterday, the Foundation sent a letter to Mr. Obama by express mail.. He should have received it by noon today. The letter speaks for itself.. Click here to view a copy..

Monday: WTP Press Conference in DC

As planned, on Monday, December 8, WTP will conduct a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC..

Yesterday, we issued a press release about the event.. We sent the release to approximately 400 media outlets, including those on the attached list.. The press conference will feature three of the attorneys behind cases now at the Supreme Court..

Almost immediately, the Wall Street Journal posted a item on its Market Watch..” We expect a fair amount of press coverage.. On Monday morning the Supreme Court will also release its decision regarding whether to hear the case by attorney Leo Donofrio who challenged the failure of the New Jersey secretary of state to verify the eligibility of the Presidential candidates scheduled to appear on the ballot..

The press conference is scheduled to begin at 1:30 pm..


U.S.. Senator Mel Martinez wrote in his letter dated December 1, 2008:

Presidential candidates are vetted by voters at least twice - first in the primary elections and again in the general election.. President-Elect Obama won the Democratic Party's nomination after one of the most fiercely contested presidential primaries in American history.. And, he has now been duly elected by the majority of voters in the United States.. Throughout both the primary and general election, concerns about Mr. Obama's birthplace were raised.. The voters have made clear their view that Mr.. Obama meets the qualifications to hold the office of President..

Sen.. Martinez would have us believe that our form of government is a pure democracy, rather than a constitutional Republic..

What if, ostensibly for the same reason, Mr.. Obama refuses to respond to our Open Letter? ..

What if the Supreme Court refuses to hear the Petitions by attorneys Donofrio, Berg and Taitz, ostensibly for the same reason – that is, that the voters have made clear their view that Mr.. Obama is eligible?

What then?

Would not this violation of the “natural born citizen” clause of the Constitution amount to our “capstone grievance,” capping all the other constitutional violations for which we have been seeking Redress?

Since 1995, we have repeatedly and respectfully petitioned the Government for Redress of its violations of the war powers, money, tax, privacy, property, and other prohibitions and restrictions placed on the Government by the People.. We have established a record of numerous violations by the Government and its refusal to justify its behavior or be held accountable..

The record is so clear and unambiguous that it leaves no room for misinterpretation.. The servants are taking over the house that our Creator built..

What must a free people do? What would they deem to be the appropriate next step?

We will have more to say about this in our next update..

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RE: Obama’s Attorney Gen Nominee Had Role in OKC Murder Cover-Up

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Obama’s Attorney Gen Nominee Had Role in OKC Murder Cover-Up
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Date: Dec 5, 2008 12:31 PM

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
PrisonPlanet. com
Thursday, December 4, 2008
source: http://www. infowars. com/?p=6367

Leaked DOJ memos shed new light on the role of Barack Obama’s Attorney General nominee Eric Holder in the cover-up of the death of Kenneth Michael Trentadue, who was tortured to death by FBI agents after they confused him with one of Timothy McVeigh’s accomplices in the Oklahoma City bombing..

Kenneth Michael Trentadue’s brother, Jesse Trentadue, has embarked on a fearless campaign to uncover the truth behind his brother’s death, and the evidence that he has gathered in the process clearly indicates that the FBI have been killing witnesses who have direct knowledge of the fact that the Oklahoma City bombing could not have gone ahead without the aid of FBI informants and that the government had prior knowledge of the attack on the Alfred P. Murrah building at least four months in advance..

During Trentadue’s previous appearances on the Alex Jones Show, he outlined the history of the case and the progress of his attempts to get answers in court..

“I didn’t start out to solve the Oklahoma City bombing, I started out to find out who killed my brother and why,” Jesse Trentadue told the Alex Jones Show in February 2007..

In January 1996, Trentadue received an anonymous phone call telling him that his brother Kenneth had been murdered by the FBI in a case of mistaken identity because his brother had fit the profile of a member of a group called the Midwest Bank Robbery Gang that had been robbing banks to fund an attack on the federal government..

“Of course I dismissed it, I thought it was far fetched, unbelievable,” said Trentadue, who said he ignored it until months later when he read a story in the L.A. Times about a man named Richard Lee Guthrie, also a member of the robbery gang, who was found hanging in his cell while in federal custody a day before he was due to give a confessional interview about the Oklahoma City bombing..

“Shortly before he was executed I received a message from Timothy McVeigh who told me that when he saw my brother’s photograph and heard what happened to him, he knew the FBI had killed my brother because they mistook him from Richard Lee Guthrie..”

Trentadue said he believes Guthrie was John Doe 2, McVeigh’s accomplice in carrying out the attack on the Alfred P. Murrah building and an individual seen by multiple eyewitnesses yet omitted from the official story by the authorities. Guthrie and Kenneth Trentadue’s physical description and movements were exactly the same, right down to the dragon tattoo on each’s left forearm..

Kenneth Trentadue’s autopsy photos clearly betray signs of a violent beating and torture as the cause of his death. The official explanation of suicide is completely inconsistent with the physical evidence..

“I didn’t start out to solve the bombing, I started out to find the men who killed my brother,” said Trentadue, “but every trail has taken me back to the bombing..”

This is what led Trentadue to file a lawsuit in Utah ordering the FBI to release all documents relating to a failed sting operation they were running at a white supremacist paramilitary training camp in Elohim City, eastern Oklahoma, and its connection to the bombing on April 19 1995..

In being given unprecedented access to speak to McVeigh’s accused co-conspirator Terry Nichols, Trentadue was able to discover that, according to Nichols, Attorney General’s Ashcroft’s office gagged Nichols from speaking to the media after it became apparent that McVeigh’s accomplices and government ties to the bombing were in danger of leaking..

“Apparently before he had contacted me several years ago he had written to Attorney General Ashcroft, volunteering to tell everything about the bombing and the others involved,” said Trentadue..

“Not only did no one from Attorney General Ashcroft’s office follow up with Nichols, they actually apparently issued an order barring him from all contact with the media - it was thereafter that he reached out to me and I was able to get in to see him to spend a day and half with him..”

During the process of his lawsuit, Trentadue was able to receive documents with names blacked out that show the FBI’s OKC bombing informants were conducting armed robberies with Timothy McVeigh in order to fund the construction of the fertilizer bomb used in the attack on the federal building..

“One of the foreign informants was actually the explosives instructor who taught him how to make the bomb,” said Trentadue, confirming that Nichols told him the criminal activities were part of a process of creating a ledger or a storyboard to which the government’s version of events could later be pinned to..

The documents also show that McVeigh called Elohim City two days before the bombing asking for help. Four months before the bombing, an FBI informant told his superiors of the attack plan and said that the Alfred P. Murrah building had been scouted..

Trentadue said that Nichols is desperate to tell his story, but cannot yet go into full detail because of the court order that sealed the affidavit. He stated that he is surprised Nichols is still alive considering the amount of suspicious deaths that have occurred as a result of the cover-up. Trentadue’s own insurance policy was that he immediately went public with any information he uncovered..

Trentadue questions why the government is so keen on preventing Nichols from being deposed if all he wants to do is tell the truth. Nichols himself would have nothing to gain from doing so apart from to put his own conscience at ease, which is precisely what Nichols told Trentadue he would like to do..

Trentadue said that the only way Nichols’ story will ever get out is if a videotaped deposition is allowed..

“You cannot tell that whole story in a declaration,” said Trentadue, adding that the more important information was contained in documents attached to the affidavit, most of which were from the FBI and Tim McVeigh’s defense team..

“The accusations that I have made against the FBI are that they set up this operation, that they had informants who robbed banks with McVeigh to fund the attacks, that they had an informant who was the explosives instructor who taught them how to make the bomb and it got away from them - they have not once denied those accusations, they have just begged this federal judge not to order the release of the documents,” the attorney concluded..

The new twist to the story revolves around Trentadue obtaining leaked DOJ memos that indicate a flurry of activity around how to handle the cover-up of the death of his brother. A key player in the cover-up was Eric Holder, who earlier this week was named by President elect Barack Obama as the nominee to become Attorney General in January subject to confirmation..

“They’re Department of Justice memos, they’re actually e mails, and they’re talking about Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder and what he has to do to keep the lid on this story,” said Trentadue, adding that the memos make it clear than an attempt to deflect press attention is the goal, along with claiming that the investigation is ongoing in order to keep everything secret..

“This was a coordinated cover-up run at the highest levels of justice and out of the White House,” said Trentadue, noting that the memos refer to the cover-up as “The Trentadue Mission” and use terms like “The Invasion of Normandy” to illustrate the scale of the operation..

“You have to ask yourself, why would the death of one little person, which they claim was a suicide by hanging, generate this kind of activity at the highest levels of the Clinton/Reno Justice Department, the answer is….they knew this murder, if investigated, would lead to the Oklahoma City Bombing and lead to the fact that the Department of Justice, through the FBI and ATF informants, was involved and this occurred just before the re-election of Bill Clinton in 1996,” said Trentadue..

“Mr. Holder’s job was to cover-up my brother’s murder, basically to stop all inquiry,” said Trentadue, saying the e mails were “inflammatory,” referring as they do to “Trentadue’s and Trentadon’ts”..

“Holder’s job was to stop the Democrats and Republicans from looking into this….you have to ask yourself why the Deputy Attorney General of the United States in involved in covering up the death of an inmate and the answer’s simple, they knew that death if investigated would lead back to the bombing, it would lead back to the government’s knowledge and involvement,” said Trentadue, adding that the release of the information would have been a disaster for the re-election hopes of Bill Clinton in 1996..

Trentadue also revealed that a witness to his brother’s torture and murder was set to give evidence in court but was also found hanged in another alleged “suicide”..

Trentadue said that the media has refused to adequately cover the story and that he has faced recriminations on behalf of government operatives who falsely accused him of bribing witnesses and went to great lengths to try and get any dirt on and harass his family..

“They’ve just made our lives hell for thirteen years,” concluded Trentadue..

Trentadue is now offering a $250,000 reward for information leading to the apprehension of the FBI agents who tortured his brother to death.. Further information, along with more details about the murder of Kenneth Michael Trentadue, can be found at http://www. kmtreward. com..

RE: Alex Jones Breaks 8-Year Silence over United States of Israel

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Alex Jones Breaks 8-Year Silence over United States of Israel

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[Alex Jones on prisonplanet. tv, November 28, 2008]

"I have been aware of Rahm Emanuel for -- well since 1995 when I really got informed, started getting informed. I was politically active in college and I would say more informed than say the average Joe. But I was still kind of in the Left-Right paradigm, kind of like a mainline Ron Paul supporter.

"And early on I learned who the enemy of the Republic was -- a great enemy, a kind of a new type, a new generation of a George Schultz, super-gopher for the New World Order, or a Henry Kissinger or a [Zbigniew] Brzezinski -- and that's Rahm Emanuel.

"He is a total anti-gunner, he wants to ban Americans owning firearms, basically. He spearheaded the assault weapons ban. He spearheaded NAFTA and GATT. He is the man that gets jobs done. And he has sworn to get our guns. That's the new Chief of Staff, and they're talking about a bunch of other appointments. It looks really bad, folks.

"And I -- I don't want to be associated with the really just mindless hateful -- and by hateful, a lot of them have attacked me and made stuff up or exaggerated or twisted things I've said, and they all fight with each other, and so that's a distasteful group as well. But at the same time, I'm a USA first guy, and a Second Amendment guy, number one, and a First Amendment guy. I mean that comes first for me. And I've just gotta say it.

"I mean, it was one thing with the last administration, and I was hoping it was a fluke and was going to stop. But I mean come on, folks -- every key person in the Bush administration, and now in this next administration, just so happen to be the sons and daughters of the founders of Israel and Mossad chiefs and people, and they're openly not even U.S. citizens, and they openly are at the head of the table in anti-gun operations in the U.S.

"And I'm sick of it. I mean Rahm Emanuel has been in the Israeli military, he gets up on news and says he's Israel first. And I've had enough of it. I mean I am really getting sick of it. I am really getting tired of it.

"Now, I'm against Schwarzenegger being a foreigner and he's over here anti-gun, and he also wants all these carbon taxes and the rest of it, so it's the same thing. I'm sick of it. But we don't have, you know, Austrians in every major power position [in the U.S. government]. British Intel's deeply infiltrated and got their people everywhere too, and that's bad.

"But I'm not going to -- It's one thing to have powerful elements of the Israel lobby all over the Bush administration and to have them being, you know, some of the most energetic cheerleaders for the Patriot Act and torture and police state measures and warrantless spying. That's bad.

"But to now have Rahm Emanuel, whose father was one of the head terrorists that founded Israel, and Rahm Emanuel himself is in the Israeli military, Israeli Intelligence, dual citizen -- I mean, I'd be against having the Chief of Staff be British and openly have worked for the British government. I would be against Arnold Schwarzenegger being in this cabinet, which they're talking about doing. It's bad. On its face it's wrong. On its face it stinks to high heaven.
And in Haaretz, in the Jerusalem Post, in the Agency French Press, these are the headlines:

"'Obama's Choice for Chief of Staff Puts Israel's Man in the White House.

"And that's the headline in Israel. You know, "We run the White House," "We've go the White House." I mean -- but then as an American citizen, I'm not supposed to mention that. I'm supposed to just sit down and shut up and go along with that.

"Now to add insult to injury, here -- I mean, do you need to have questionable birth, questionable birth, or you know, have your lineage in this country be about a centimeter deep like Obama to be president now? Do you have to not be born here and say you want to be a Hitler dictator to be a governor? Do you have to be an open, you know, Mossad officer, like Chertoff or Mukasey or Rahm Emanuel? I mean, do you have to be a foreigner to run our government?

"I mean, is it not enough that Israeli government runs the company that does 98% of caller I.D. and phone tracking in the nation? That's been mainstream news. Is it not enough that Israel has the sole contract to "guard the nuclear weapons"? -- our own government doesn't even have control of them.
Is it not enough that Israel had fingerprints all over 9/11?

"The Executive Branch is nothing but a nozzle to suck up the wealth and the treasury of this country and offshore it. The Congress is completely ceremonial. And until we start admitting the Congress has handed over its authority, was threatened with martial law when they were getting 1,000-to-one phone calls against the banker takeover bill. And they did it because they know they're threatened with martial law, they're threatened with the media destroying them. They are ceremonial. They have been cowed. They are afraid. Because they know they'll be killed, they'll be set up, they'll be destroyed. They know that. This country is now under total darkness. This nation is now completely and totally under international crime syndicate control. A consortium of wicked robber barons, black nobility -- that is: the old royal families of Europe, intermarried and interbred with the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers -- I mean go read the newspapers, it's all admitted right there. They don't even hide this stuff.

"And so if Agency French Press and Jerusalem Post can run headlines with the headline "Israel's Man in the White House" -- I mean go read it for yourself up on infowars. com and prisonplanet. com.
I would be against that period: having these people openly say "I work for the Mossad." I mean, the Attorney General, Mukasey, the Homeland Security Director, Chertoff, his mother and father both founders of Israel and Mossad, and he openly says "Israel first"? And then we have Rahm Emanuel and all these other people, and they don't even care, they just say, "Yeah. Yeah.
And we're going to take your guns!"

"And you know what, the churches, the Zionist churches, the mainline Christians, the phony Christians -- I'm a Christian, people misunderstood what I said yesterday, I said, "These phony Christians saying 'Lay down, wait for the Rapture.'" And FEMA and Homeland Security hiring 24,000 preachers to go around and give their flocks sermons saying "turn your guns in, submit to government," and they've got the heads of major denominations on TV saying it right now.

"I mean, folks, this is life and death, now. This government is totally bankrupt and totally criminal. And now the mindless Left, who could see the police state under Bush, they're now completely blind and cheerleading Obama the new puppet who runs nothing.


Bulletin posted December 5, 2008
by Jock Doubleday
http://therevolutionwillnotbeorganized. org
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