United State sponsored terrorism

RE: The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Infensus Mentis
Date: Nov 14, 2008 5:41 AM


I was told by a friend of mine that this bulletin was deleted shortly after I last posted it, and it wasn't by me. Here it is again, apologies to those that may have caught it before it was Orwelled by Rupertspace.


The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence


It's olive harvest season in the West Bank, and militant Jewish racists who inhabit the illegal settlements throughout Occupied Palestine are again determined to cause as much grief as possible for struggling Palestinian farmers.
Even human rights activists seeking to provide protection for the farmers come under attack from these violent Zionist loons.
..

Already hundreds of olive trees have been torched in Nablus by these nutcases, some of them hundreds of years old, while the complicit IOF not only refuses to prevent the Jewish attacks but provides them with practical and moral support and goes about arresting and kidnapping Palestinians just for good measure.
..

Yesterday, Friday, Oct 10: ....

Elderly Man, Two Kids Injured In West Bank Settler Attack

Israeli settlers injured six Palestinians as they harvested their olive trees near the illegal Israeli settlement of Brachah.


Medical sources at Radefia hospital told Ma’an that six residents of the village south of Nablus suffered bruises, fractures and wounds after settlers assaulted them. Among the victims were two children and an elderly Palestinian man.


Hospital officials identified the two injured children as eight-year-old Hesham Fayez Fathi Mansur and 12-year-old Madeeha Nassar Rashed Mansur.


70-year-old Fathi Rasheed Mansur, as well as Ibtisam Naasar Rasheed and Manal Wasfi Rasheed Mansur, both 30, were also injured in the attack.

A Palestinian Authority (PA) official responsible for village affairs told Ma’an that “dozens of Israeli settlers” attacked the Palestinians.


The official, Ghassan Daghlas, said the settlers “beat and threw stones at the residents” of the village on Friday.
..
More on the settlers:

Jewish Terrorists Rampage Through Arab Village

Israel's Front Line Thugs: The Settlers

Settler Gang Pushes Palestinian Boy Off Roof

'I Kicked The Arab, I Stepped On His Head'

Jewish Klansmen Tie Palestinian To Power Pole, Beat Him Savagely

How I Became a Target For Jewish Terrorists

Hundreds Join In Settler Violence

Army Aids Settlers In Attacks On Farmers Harvesting Olives

Israel's Army and Settlers Fall Out: The Souring of a West Bank Romance

Israeli State-Sponsored Terrorism: The Settlers

Jewish 'Modesty Patrols' Sow Fear in Israel

Settler Attacks on Palestinians, Israeli Soldiers Increasing

Shooting Back at the Settlers

Settlers Attack Non-Violent Farmers and Activists in Ni'lin Village

Israeli Settlers Raid Palestinian Farms

Extremist Jews Storm The Aqsa Mosque Under Army Protection

West Bank On Edge as Young Radicals Settle In: Militant Jews Attack Palestinians

Settlers Kill Palestinian Girl After Hebron Funeral

Settlers Attack Palestinians

Jewish Colonizers Attack, Injure Mother and Two of Her Sons in Hebron

Shepherd Shot Dead By Settlers in West Bank

Extremist Jewish Residents of Akka Attack a Pregnant Arab Teacher

Jewish Extremists Attempt Pogrom Against Arabs in Akka

Israel's Religious Fanatics Riot in Akka

Olmert Admits Jewish Underground Active In Israel

Israeli Army Chief Slams Settler Attacks

License to Kill

America's Hypocrisy Matched Only By Israel's

Israeli Children Terrorize Palestinians on Their Way to School

Settlers Torch Hundreds of Olive Trees Around Nablus Region

Settlers Burn 3,000 Olive Trees in Southern Nablus

Settlers Cut Down At Least 20 Olive Trees

Two Palestinian Farmers Injured as Settlers Attack Olive Harvest Near Huwarra, Nablus

Settlers Vandalise West Bank Cemetary

Settlers Vandalize Muslim Graves After IDF Razes Illegal Outpost

Gideon Levy: Settlers have earned many Israelis' hatred of them

Settlers: We Hope IDF Soldiers Die, Become Like Gilad Shailt

Defeat Settler Terror

Jewish Occupiers Attack Palestinians

Bitter Harvest as Israeli Settlers Run Rampage

Palestine: The Architecture of Apartheid

Armed Settlers Burn Farmers Equipment in Burin

New Report Details Attacks on Palestinian Children by Israeli Settlers

Demanding a Settler-Free Olive Harvest

American Diplomat Decries Settler Attacks on Palestinian Farmers

IFJ Condemns Israeli Settler Attacks on Palestinian Journalists

PLO to Ask UN Security Council For Protection Against Settler Attacks

UK Urges Israeli Settlement Freeze

Enough Already: Israel's Unruly Child

EU Condemns Settler Acts of Brutality

EU Slams Brutality Carried Out By Israeli Settlers Against Palestinian Villagers

Masked Settlers Assault Palestinian Photographers

Settlers Attack Elderly Woman's Home In Hebron

Settlers Burn Palestinian Land in Burin

Settlers Rebuild Illegal Structure, Attack Palestinians

Israel Spy Chief Fears Jewish Extremist Plot

Lieberman: Shin Bet Could Be Behind Settler Violence

Two Border Police Hurt by Stone Throwing Settlers Near Hebron

Israel to End Support of Outposts

Britain to Crack Down on Exports From Israeli Settlements

Israeli Miltary Detains Seven Palestinians as Armed Settlers Wound Three Others

Israel in a Showdown With West Bank Settlers

Yesh Din Report: Only 8% of Palestinian Complaints Against Settlers Result in Indictment

Fire in Hebron: Rightists Burn Palestinian Flag

United State sponsored terrorism

RE: The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Infensus Mentis
Date: Nov 14, 2008 5:41 AM


I was told by a friend of mine that this bulletin was deleted shortly after I last posted it, and it wasn't by me. Here it is again, apologies to those that may have caught it before it was Orwelled by Rupertspace.


The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence


It's olive harvest season in the West Bank, and militant Jewish racists who inhabit the illegal settlements throughout Occupied Palestine are again determined to cause as much grief as possible for struggling Palestinian farmers.
Even human rights activists seeking to provide protection for the farmers come under attack from these violent Zionist loons.
..

Already hundreds of olive trees have been torched in Nablus by these nutcases, some of them hundreds of years old, while the complicit IOF not only refuses to prevent the Jewish attacks but provides them with practical and moral support and goes about arresting and kidnapping Palestinians just for good measure.
..

Yesterday, Friday, Oct 10: ....

Elderly Man, Two Kids Injured In West Bank Settler Attack

Israeli settlers injured six Palestinians as they harvested their olive trees near the illegal Israeli settlement of Brachah.


Medical sources at Radefia hospital told Ma’an that six residents of the village south of Nablus suffered bruises, fractures and wounds after settlers assaulted them. Among the victims were two children and an elderly Palestinian man.


Hospital officials identified the two injured children as eight-year-old Hesham Fayez Fathi Mansur and 12-year-old Madeeha Nassar Rashed Mansur.


70-year-old Fathi Rasheed Mansur, as well as Ibtisam Naasar Rasheed and Manal Wasfi Rasheed Mansur, both 30, were also injured in the attack.

A Palestinian Authority (PA) official responsible for village affairs told Ma’an that “dozens of Israeli settlers” attacked the Palestinians.


The official, Ghassan Daghlas, said the settlers “beat and threw stones at the residents” of the village on Friday.
..
More on the settlers:

Jewish Terrorists Rampage Through Arab Village

Israel's Front Line Thugs: The Settlers

Settler Gang Pushes Palestinian Boy Off Roof

'I Kicked The Arab, I Stepped On His Head'

Jewish Klansmen Tie Palestinian To Power Pole, Beat Him Savagely

How I Became a Target For Jewish Terrorists

Hundreds Join In Settler Violence

Army Aids Settlers In Attacks On Farmers Harvesting Olives

Israel's Army and Settlers Fall Out: The Souring of a West Bank Romance

Israeli State-Sponsored Terrorism: The Settlers

Jewish 'Modesty Patrols' Sow Fear in Israel

Settler Attacks on Palestinians, Israeli Soldiers Increasing

Shooting Back at the Settlers

Settlers Attack Non-Violent Farmers and Activists in Ni'lin Village

Israeli Settlers Raid Palestinian Farms

Extremist Jews Storm The Aqsa Mosque Under Army Protection

West Bank On Edge as Young Radicals Settle In: Militant Jews Attack Palestinians

Settlers Kill Palestinian Girl After Hebron Funeral

Settlers Attack Palestinians

Jewish Colonizers Attack, Injure Mother and Two of Her Sons in Hebron

Shepherd Shot Dead By Settlers in West Bank

Extremist Jewish Residents of Akka Attack a Pregnant Arab Teacher

Jewish Extremists Attempt Pogrom Against Arabs in Akka

Israel's Religious Fanatics Riot in Akka

Olmert Admits Jewish Underground Active In Israel

Israeli Army Chief Slams Settler Attacks

License to Kill

America's Hypocrisy Matched Only By Israel's

Israeli Children Terrorize Palestinians on Their Way to School

Settlers Torch Hundreds of Olive Trees Around Nablus Region

Settlers Burn 3,000 Olive Trees in Southern Nablus

Settlers Cut Down At Least 20 Olive Trees

Two Palestinian Farmers Injured as Settlers Attack Olive Harvest Near Huwarra, Nablus

Settlers Vandalise West Bank Cemetary

Settlers Vandalize Muslim Graves After IDF Razes Illegal Outpost

Gideon Levy: Settlers have earned many Israelis' hatred of them

Settlers: We Hope IDF Soldiers Die, Become Like Gilad Shailt

Defeat Settler Terror

Jewish Occupiers Attack Palestinians

Bitter Harvest as Israeli Settlers Run Rampage

Palestine: The Architecture of Apartheid

Armed Settlers Burn Farmers Equipment in Burin

New Report Details Attacks on Palestinian Children by Israeli Settlers

Demanding a Settler-Free Olive Harvest

American Diplomat Decries Settler Attacks on Palestinian Farmers

IFJ Condemns Israeli Settler Attacks on Palestinian Journalists

PLO to Ask UN Security Council For Protection Against Settler Attacks

UK Urges Israeli Settlement Freeze

Enough Already: Israel's Unruly Child

EU Condemns Settler Acts of Brutality

EU Slams Brutality Carried Out By Israeli Settlers Against Palestinian Villagers

Masked Settlers Assault Palestinian Photographers

Settlers Attack Elderly Woman's Home In Hebron

Settlers Burn Palestinian Land in Burin

Settlers Rebuild Illegal Structure, Attack Palestinians

Israel Spy Chief Fears Jewish Extremist Plot

Lieberman: Shin Bet Could Be Behind Settler Violence

Two Border Police Hurt by Stone Throwing Settlers Near Hebron

Israel to End Support of Outposts

Britain to Crack Down on Exports From Israeli Settlements

Israeli Miltary Detains Seven Palestinians as Armed Settlers Wound Three Others

Israel in a Showdown With West Bank Settlers

Yesh Din Report: Only 8% of Palestinian Complaints Against Settlers Result in Indictment

Fire in Hebron: Rightists Burn Palestinian Flag

United State sponsored terrorism

RE: The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Infensus Mentis
Date: Nov 14, 2008 5:41 AM


I was told by a friend of mine that this bulletin was deleted shortly after I last posted it, and it wasn't by me. Here it is again, apologies to those that may have caught it before it was Orwelled by Rupertspace.


The Never Ending Story of Jewish Violence


It's olive harvest season in the West Bank, and militant Jewish racists who inhabit the illegal settlements throughout Occupied Palestine are again determined to cause as much grief as possible for struggling Palestinian farmers.
Even human rights activists seeking to provide protection for the farmers come under attack from these violent Zionist loons.
..

Already hundreds of olive trees have been torched in Nablus by these nutcases, some of them hundreds of years old, while the complicit IOF not only refuses to prevent the Jewish attacks but provides them with practical and moral support and goes about arresting and kidnapping Palestinians just for good measure.
..

Yesterday, Friday, Oct 10: ....

Elderly Man, Two Kids Injured In West Bank Settler Attack

Israeli settlers injured six Palestinians as they harvested their olive trees near the illegal Israeli settlement of Brachah.


Medical sources at Radefia hospital told Ma’an that six residents of the village south of Nablus suffered bruises, fractures and wounds after settlers assaulted them. Among the victims were two children and an elderly Palestinian man.


Hospital officials identified the two injured children as eight-year-old Hesham Fayez Fathi Mansur and 12-year-old Madeeha Nassar Rashed Mansur.


70-year-old Fathi Rasheed Mansur, as well as Ibtisam Naasar Rasheed and Manal Wasfi Rasheed Mansur, both 30, were also injured in the attack.

A Palestinian Authority (PA) official responsible for village affairs told Ma’an that “dozens of Israeli settlers” attacked the Palestinians.


The official, Ghassan Daghlas, said the settlers “beat and threw stones at the residents” of the village on Friday.
..
More on the settlers:

Jewish Terrorists Rampage Through Arab Village

Israel's Front Line Thugs: The Settlers

Settler Gang Pushes Palestinian Boy Off Roof

'I Kicked The Arab, I Stepped On His Head'

Jewish Klansmen Tie Palestinian To Power Pole, Beat Him Savagely

How I Became a Target For Jewish Terrorists

Hundreds Join In Settler Violence

Army Aids Settlers In Attacks On Farmers Harvesting Olives

Israel's Army and Settlers Fall Out: The Souring of a West Bank Romance

Israeli State-Sponsored Terrorism: The Settlers

Jewish 'Modesty Patrols' Sow Fear in Israel

Settler Attacks on Palestinians, Israeli Soldiers Increasing

Shooting Back at the Settlers

Settlers Attack Non-Violent Farmers and Activists in Ni'lin Village

Israeli Settlers Raid Palestinian Farms

Extremist Jews Storm The Aqsa Mosque Under Army Protection

West Bank On Edge as Young Radicals Settle In: Militant Jews Attack Palestinians

Settlers Kill Palestinian Girl After Hebron Funeral

Settlers Attack Palestinians

Jewish Colonizers Attack, Injure Mother and Two of Her Sons in Hebron

Shepherd Shot Dead By Settlers in West Bank

Extremist Jewish Residents of Akka Attack a Pregnant Arab Teacher

Jewish Extremists Attempt Pogrom Against Arabs in Akka

Israel's Religious Fanatics Riot in Akka

Olmert Admits Jewish Underground Active In Israel

Israeli Army Chief Slams Settler Attacks

License to Kill

America's Hypocrisy Matched Only By Israel's

Israeli Children Terrorize Palestinians on Their Way to School

Settlers Torch Hundreds of Olive Trees Around Nablus Region

Settlers Burn 3,000 Olive Trees in Southern Nablus

Settlers Cut Down At Least 20 Olive Trees

Two Palestinian Farmers Injured as Settlers Attack Olive Harvest Near Huwarra, Nablus

Settlers Vandalise West Bank Cemetary

Settlers Vandalize Muslim Graves After IDF Razes Illegal Outpost

Gideon Levy: Settlers have earned many Israelis' hatred of them

Settlers: We Hope IDF Soldiers Die, Become Like Gilad Shailt

Defeat Settler Terror

Jewish Occupiers Attack Palestinians

Bitter Harvest as Israeli Settlers Run Rampage

Palestine: The Architecture of Apartheid

Armed Settlers Burn Farmers Equipment in Burin

New Report Details Attacks on Palestinian Children by Israeli Settlers

Demanding a Settler-Free Olive Harvest

American Diplomat Decries Settler Attacks on Palestinian Farmers

IFJ Condemns Israeli Settler Attacks on Palestinian Journalists

PLO to Ask UN Security Council For Protection Against Settler Attacks

UK Urges Israeli Settlement Freeze

Enough Already: Israel's Unruly Child

EU Condemns Settler Acts of Brutality

EU Slams Brutality Carried Out By Israeli Settlers Against Palestinian Villagers

Masked Settlers Assault Palestinian Photographers

Settlers Attack Elderly Woman's Home In Hebron

Settlers Burn Palestinian Land in Burin

Settlers Rebuild Illegal Structure, Attack Palestinians

Israel Spy Chief Fears Jewish Extremist Plot

Lieberman: Shin Bet Could Be Behind Settler Violence

Two Border Police Hurt by Stone Throwing Settlers Near Hebron

Israel to End Support of Outposts

Britain to Crack Down on Exports From Israeli Settlements

Israeli Miltary Detains Seven Palestinians as Armed Settlers Wound Three Others

Israel in a Showdown With West Bank Settlers

Yesh Din Report: Only 8% of Palestinian Complaints Against Settlers Result in Indictment

Fire in Hebron: Rightists Burn Palestinian Flag

RE: US Taxpayers Violated - The Looting Operation Continues

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Lori
Date: Nov 13, 2008 7:06 PM


From: Blaine
Date: Nov 13, 2008 3:35 PM


http://www. financialsense. com/fsu/editorials/martenson/2008/1111. html

US Taxpayers Violated

The Looting Operation Continues

by Dr.
Chris Martenson | November 11, 2008

I am trying to maintain a very level-headed approach to the changes that we are seeing.
However, from time to time the looting operation becomes just a bit too obvious, a bit too overt, and I find my level of cool slipping.

This is one of those times.

Here are the dots that I am connecting that have me concerned, if not angry.

Remember, even prior to its passage, I called the bailout the greatest looting operation of our time. I did so because the language of the Bailout Act, as originally proposed by the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, er, I mean the Treasury Secretary, requested three things: unitary power, no review, and no limits.

Frankly, it was the most plainly-worded document of theft that I had ever seen, and probably ever will see, in my life (because it was too blatant and such mistakes are rarely made again).


After that draft was defeated in the House, the Senate immediately attached a much denser 300+ page version of the bailout bill to an existing piece of legislation and passed it. The house caved after an intense week of lobbying by both banks and the people of the land, who were diametrically opposed on the issue. Naturally, they caved to the banking interests.

But We The People won some symbolic victories in that battle, including the explicit promise of complete transparency in the use of that money.

Now it turns out that We The Payers won nothing at all, and that we are not even being afforded the most basic right of being able to view how that money is being spent.

Fed Defies Transparency Aim in Refusal to Disclose

Nov.
10 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve is refusing to identify the recipients of almost $2 trillion of emergency loans from American taxpayers or the troubled assets the central bank is accepting as collateral.

Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said in September they would comply with congressional demands for transparency in a $700 billion bailout of the banking system. Two months later, as the Fed lends far more than that in separate rescue programs that didn't require approval by Congress, Americans have no idea where their money is going or what securities the banks are pledging in return.

This is a complete outrage. Here we have been told that we cannot see how our money is being spent, and that we cannot have insight into whether this money is being used to enrich cronies of the system.

So far, the data is not encouraging. Failed institutions have been spared (at great expense), lies and prevarications have been our signposts along the way, and each new "program" has been an affront to common sense and decency.

The common element has always been 'telling the public the least amount possible.
'

I wish there were a second currency in operation in this country, so that I could vote on this plan by dishoarding every single Federal Reserve Note and piling into a better-run currency.


And here’s your second lesson in “why larger bills with more pages are better for looting than small bills.” It turns out that the Treasury quietly slipped in a bit of language that handed a massive, unprecedented $140 billion tax give-away to major banks.

A quiet windfall for U. S. banks

The financial world was fixated on Capitol Hill as Congress battled over the Bush administration's request for a $700 billion bailout of the banking industry. In the midst of this late-September drama, the Treasury Department issued a five-sentence notice that attracted almost no public attention.

But corporate tax lawyers quickly realized the enormous implications of the document: Administration officials had just given American banks a windfall of as much as $140 billion.

The sweeping change to two decades of tax policy escaped the notice of lawmakers for several days, as they remained consumed with the controversial bailout bill. When they found out, some legislators were furious. Some congressional staff members have privately concluded that the notice was illegal. But they have worried that saying so publicly could unravel several recent bank mergers made possible by the change and send the economy into an even deeper tailspin.


I just want you to think of this when Congress agonizes over and finally determines that the nation “cannot afford” to undo the $85 billion in middle class AMT tax hikes later this year.



I want you to also think of the amount of time that Congress agonized over $14 billion in alternative energy tax credits before grudgingly passing them. Ten times that amount was handed to big banks without, to my knowledge, even a single open-floor comment or objection from a single congressperson.

Simply outrageous. We’ve been looted.

Next, as this article in The Nation makes clear, the “deals” that the Treasury department has been making on your behalf under the mandate to “protect the taxpayer” have been running roughly 100% over fair market value. In other words, a gigantic handout to the biggest banks at the worst possible price (for taxpayers), with practically no strings attached.

Paulson's Swindle Revealed

The swindle of American taxpayers is proceeding more or less in broad daylight, as the unwitting voters are preoccupied with the national election. Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson agreed to invest $125 billion in the nine largest banks, including $10 billion for Goldman Sachs, his old firm.


But, if you look more closely at Paulson's transaction, the taxpayers were taken for a ride--a very expensive ride.
They paid $125 billion for bank stock that a private investor could purchase for $62.5 billion.
That means half of the public's money was a straight-out gift to Wall Street, for which taxpayers got nothing in return.

But that’s okay – there’s a big G20 meeting coming up.
Perhaps the world’s leaders will come up with a sensible plan for returning some of the power back to We The People?

UK's Brown: Now is the time to build global society

LONDON (Reuters) - The international financial crisis has given world leaders a unique opportunity to create a truly global society, Britain's Prime Minister Gordon Brown will say in a keynote foreign policy speech on Monday.

In his annual speech at the Lord Mayor's Banquet, Brown -- who has spearheaded calls for the reform of international financial institutions -- will say Britain, the United States and Europe are key to forging a new world order.

"The alliance between Britain and the U.S. -- and more broadly between Europe and the U.S. -- can and must provide leadership, not in order to make the rules ourselves, but to lead the global effort to build a stronger and more just international order," an excerpt from the speech says.

According to a summary of the speech released by his office, Brown will set out five great challenges the world faces.

These are: terrorism and extremism and the need to reassert faith in democracy; the global economy; climate change; conflict and mechanisms for rebuilding states after conflict; and meeting goals on tackling poverty and disease.

Brown will also identify five stages for tackling the economy, starting with recapitalizing banks so they can resume lending to families and businesses, and better international co-ordination of fiscal and monetary policy.

Whoa. Hold on there! Lots of warning signals are flashing for me here. First, rather than a new world order, I think we need to understand how we can return to the old world order – you know, where international trade is balanced, and people save, and debt growth matches economic growth. .

I definitely think it's way too early to be proclaiming that now is the right time to set off on a big building project.

From my vantage point, it rather looks like our McMansion has fallen to the ground in a jumble, and now the same architect is trying to sell us on a bigger design.

Second, I am deeply uncomfortable with the language and intent expressed by “the need to reassert faith in democracy.
” What in the heck does that mean? Seriously.
What exactly is he trying to imply?

I was not aware that democracy was in need of additional faith. I rather thought it ran on such things as laws, fairness, and its own merits.

This line smacks of demagoguery, and I am deeply cautious of the messenger who hails from the country with the most security cameras and intrusive domestic government spying policies of any “democracy” out there. If Gordon Brown is selling democracy, I am suddenly no longer buying.



Worse, it is the financial crisis that is being used to peddle this tripe. A crisis that has been used to advance the power and reach of the banks, using the most overt looting and legalized theft ever seen or envisaged.

Now I am more than a little concerned about what is coming next. The decisions emanating from this G20 meeting deserve more than a little scrutiny.

Oddly, Obama is not attending, only Bush (and by extension Cheney). All the more curious.

But one thing is for dead certain - if a new world order is being planned, I don't want Brown or Bush or Cheney anywhere near it.

Your faithful information scout,


Chris Martenson

The "Hole" story!?!

RE: THE MONEY HOLE DEBATE!

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: JERM
Date: Nov 13, 2008 7:12 PM


From: Jerm

Should The Government Stop Dumping Money Into A Giant Hole?

"Congress shal make no law"

RE: I want the same retirement plan as politicians! Screw SSI...

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Pan Man
Date: Nov 13, 2008 1:12 AM


Ain't it great to be able to name your own figure for "retirement" income?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: NIGHTWATCH
Date: Nov 12, 2008 4:03 AM


From Rockin Foot:

SOCIAL SECURITY
>
>
> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT!
>
> KEEP IT GOING!!!!
> 2008 Election Issue!!
>
> GET A BILL STARTED TO PLACE ALL POLITICIANS ON SOC. SEC.


>
>
> This must be an issue in '2008' Please! Keep it
> going.


>
> ----------------------------------
>
> SOCIAL SECURITY:
>
> (This is worth reading. It is short and to the point.

)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election
> years.


>
> Our S enators and Congresswomen do not pay into Social
> Security and, of course, they do not collect from it.


>
> You see, Social Security benefits were not suitable for
> persons of their rare elevation in society.

They felt they
> should have a special plan for themselves.

So, many years
> ago they voted in their own benefit plan.


>
> In more recent years, no congressperson has felt the need
> to change it. After all, it is a great plan.


>
> For all practical purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until
> they die.


>
> Except it may increase from time to time for cost of living
> adjustments..
>
> For example, Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their
> wives may expect to draw $7,800,000.

00 (that's Seven
> Million, Eight-Hundred Thousand Dollars), with their wives
> drawing $275, 000.00 during the last years of their lives.


>
> This is calculated on an average life span for each of
> those two Dignitaries.


>
>
> Younger Dignitaries who retire at an early age, will
> receive much more during the rest of their lives.


>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is$0.00. NADA..!
> ZILCH...
>
> This little perk they voted for themselves is free to t
> hem.You and I pick up the tab for this plan.

The funds for
> this fine retirement plan come directly from the General
> Funds;
>
> 'OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK '!
>
> From our own Social Security Plan, which you and I pay (or
> have paid) into,every payday until we retire (which amount
> is matched by our employer).

We can expect to get an average
> of $1,000 per month and the government raids our retirement
> plan to fund or balance the federal budget.


>
> Or, in other words, we would have to collect our average of
> $1,000 monthly benefits for 68 years and one (1) month to
> equal Senator! Bill Bradley's benefits!
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change
> were made.


>
> That change would be to:
>
>
> Jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from under the
> Senators and Congressmen.

Put them into the Social Security
> plan with the rest of us
>
>
> Then sit back.....
>
>
> And see how fast they would fix it.


>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness
> will be planted and maybe good changes will evolve.


>
>
>
> How many people CAN you send this to?
>
>
> Better yet......
>
>
> How many people WILL you send this to ?

RE: The Shift - The tide is turning. Let us remember now

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From: Nibiru
Date: Nov 13, 2008 3:00 AM


Thank you Tøwßeh ۩ +éñª©iØu§ ۩™

RE: Adults Only! Marijuana, Viagra, Obesity, Strippers & Goats!

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From: Pan Man
Date: Nov 13, 2008 2:45 AM


No editorializing or commentary required for this one! It speaks for itself.



THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME!






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From: No signal
Date: Nov 13, 2008 1:30 AM


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From: jane
Date: Nov 13, 2008 1:20 AM

RE: trance formation of amerikkka

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From: The War Of Terror
Date: Nov 13, 2008 3:10 AM


i admire this woman 4 speaking up about her unspeakable torture. hadn't seen this lecture but had read her book TRANCE: Formation of America-a must read.
baz

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thanks: Trish
Date: 09 Nov 2008, 07:18 PM

RE: the Constitution and Liberty

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From: Freeagle
Date: Nov 13, 2008 7:42 AM

RE: Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

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From: A-Bomb
Date: Nov 13, 2008 7:46 AM


Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails

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From: The Last Baboon
Date: Nov 13, 2008 4:40 AM

RE: 11/10/08: "Hempstead 15" Court Arraignment - Nassau County

----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Lori
Date: Nov 13, 2008 8:06 AM


From: Spc McKay Veteran for Peace
Date: Nov 13, 2008 5:50 AM


11/10/08: "Hempstead 15" Court Arraignment - Nassau County




Come support the
Iraq Veterans Against the War

Nassau county courthouse

11/12/08

8:00 - 10:00 a.m.


www. pimpinturtle. com
www. IVAW. org
www. glassbeadcollective. org
www. nyfa. com



Update-Nov.
10, 2008

Hempstead 15 plead not guilty while cops defend brutalizing veterans

It was a sad day for Nassau County, but a proud one for veterans and activists nation-wide when the Hempstead 15 plead not guilty Nov. 10 in the Nassau County District Courthouse to charges of disorderly conduct while a crowd of nearly 100 supporters cheered them from in and outside the building.


The charges stemmed from an action planned by IVAW around the final presidential debate at Hofstra University Oct. 15. During the debate, members of Iraq Veterans Against the War and supporters peacefully marched into police lines blocking Hofstra’s entrance after having their voices and issues ignored throughout the election cycle by the candidates.


During the demonstration, Nassau County Police used horses to push demonstrators onto a sidewalk before brutalizing them and arresting several, including Nick Morgan, a veteran of Iraq whose face was crushed by a police horse. In total, ten veterans and five of our supporters were arrested, hence the Hempstead 15.


Following an evening of relentless harassment by Nassau County Police, including threats of rape and further brutality, the Hempstead 15 were released to appear in court today where all plead not guilty as the police defended their actions to the press.


“The protesters were trying to gain entry into the debate, and police were not going to let that happen,” said Det. Sgt. Anthony Repalone of the NCPD to Newsday. "We used necessary force in order to carry out that goal," he said, before asserting that police have yet to determine whether Nick was actually trampled.


This claim comes in direct contradiction not only to video evidence clearly showing Nick and others being trampled and brutalized on the sidewalk opposite the main gate of Hofstra, but also a statement made by Lt.
Kevin Smith of the NCPD’s Public Information Office almost a month ago where he acknowledged, “One of the defendants collided with a police horse,” before adding, “Who do you think is gonna win?”

After refusing to drop charges against the Hempstead fifteen, Nassau County once again snubbed the first amendment and our supporters by setting different court dates for our members, scattering our next appearances from this Wednesday to late January, I suspect in an attempt to complicate further demonstrations.


What these legal gerrymanderers don’t realize is they’ve just given a motivated movement a good reason to celebrate liberty and support our troops 15 more times on their front porch!

So where do we go from here?

We must keep up the pressure on Nassau County to drop all charges against the Hempstead 15.
You can do this by calling District Attorney Kathleen Rice at 516-571-2994 or contacting her here: http://www. nassaucountyny. gov/agencies/DA/contact. html

As well, you can sign the petition demanding that charges be dropped against Nick Morgan and that those officers responsible for the brutality of Oct. 15th be held accountable.
http://www. ipetitions. com/petition/justicefornick/?e Additionally, please donate money to help cover Nick’s medical bills at ivaw. org.


Please reach out to president-elect Obama however you can and demand that he condemn the trampling and arrests of Nick and others as well the eroding of our civil liberties as Americans.


Please help us spread word of the tragic events of Oct. 15th by continuing to forward information about the demonstration, Nick Morgan and the Hempstead 15 to your friends, relatives and co-workers. This REALLY makes a difference.


Adam Kokesh will be going to trial this Wednesday morning at 9 a.m. Please come out to the courthouse at 8 a.m. to show your support! 99 Main St., Hempstead, NY. The next court appearance will not take place until December which gives us some time to plan.


I’ll be appearing on Democracy Now tomorrow morning for Veterans Day and to speak about what happened in court this morning.
Please tune in or check out the broadcast on the web at democracynow. org.


We’re a long way from finished fighting. And this is a fight we will ultimately win. Simply having people in this country willing to put their bodies on the line in defense of our veterans and the constitution is proof that victory is within our grasps.


I was so moved this morning to see so many supporters gathered so early in the morning in solidarity with us. Thank you to all who turned out to make good on America’s promise to support her troops.
And thank you to all who signed the petition, donated to Nick and who’ve helped us get the word out!

Much more is to come from IVAW and the Hempstead 15.
Stay in touch to see how we’re going to end the war and ensure our troops get the care and respect they deserve!

Peace and Solidarity,

Matthis Chiroux


VIDEO OF HOFSTRA ACTION AND POLICE BRUTALITY:
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=HvV_6OoqhVw&feature=related
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=eupU-StpCqM&watch_response

NAOMI WOLF INTERVIEWS MATTHIS CHIROUX ABOUT HOFSTRA ACTION:
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=ahP4Y-8_JgY

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On Wednesday, October 15th 2008, a peaceful protest outside the third Presidential Debate at Hofstra University on Long Island was met with violence and misconduct by police.


Iraq Veterans Against the War had a clear mission that night: to ensure that the issues most important to Veterans would be at the forefront of the debate. With over 4,183 service members having been killed in Iraq (at the time of the protest), it's unforgivable that the candidates have been allowing the Occupation of Iraq and it's casualties to fall into avoidable talking points instead of focused attention.


At 7:00pm the night of the debate, IVAW members led a contingent of a few hundred peaceful protesters to the main gate of Hofstra University. As per our letter to Moderator Bob Scheiffer, because we hadn't received notice that two of our Veterans would be allowed to enter the debate to address the candidates, a small, uniformed contingent of Veterans physically attempted entry.


Immediately police began arresting those who "crossed the line". They then began using horses to physically knock protesters back away from the Hofstra gates.


As the order to get back on the sidewalk was being complied to at least one officer charged his horse up the curb, and onto the sidewalk- directly resulting in at least three injuries- including two Iraq Veterans.


Nick Morgan, a former Army Sergeant was trampled, knocked out, and had his face crushed by the hoof of a horse.


Witnesses say that police left him unconscious on the sidewalk for up to ten minutes before arresting him. Nick, disoriented and obviously suffering a concussion, was initially refused medical treatment beyond a simple piece of gauze taped to his face.


When Morgan was escorted onto the bus in handcuffs, he didn't know where he was, or why he was arrested. Police initially refused to bring him to the hospital irregardless of his potentially life threatening condition. It wasn't until other members of IVAW demanded he be allowed to see a doctor, that the police hesitantly put Nick into an ambulance.


At the hospital Morgan received stitches, and it was discovered after an x-ray that his right cheek bone was clearly displaced and pushed back into his skull.


After treatment, the semi-conscious Veteran was brought to Nassau County's Headquarters Jail and shackled to a bench with the rest of us. With fifteen in total sitting in the jail, the officers and detectives began taunting and harassing Nick, with all of us witnessing this misconduct by police.


We, the "Hempstead 15" were issued the same summons and case number for "disorderly conduct" and "failure to obey a lawful order".


On November 10th 2008, the Marine Corps Birthday, and one day before Veterans Day, we will be heard in court. We would like to invite you to come out in support of the very Freedoms granted by the United States Constitution that we swore to uphold and defend when joining the military.


First District Court, County of Nassau, Arraignment Part, 99 Main Street, Hempstead New York 11550 (Room 268)

I hope to see you all there, for a Peaceful action.


-Sergeant Kristofer Goldsmith
Iraq Veterans Against the War
"1 of the Hempstead 15"

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Hooves of fury stampede over veterans/U.S. Constitution Oct.
15
Matthis Chiroux of the “Hempstead 15" recounts his debate experience

Wednesday, Oct. 15th, 2008, members of Iraq Veterans Against the War and supporters gathered near the Hempstead, N.Y., train station to march on the final presidential debate at Hofstra University.


Our intent was made clear in a letter to Bob Schieffer, the debate moderator, one week prior. We wanted two members of our organization inside the debate where they would ask one question of Obama and one of McCain. If CBS and the candidates failed to meet our demands, we would march on Hofstra at 7 p.m. in a peaceful attempt to enter the debate to have our voices heard.


I planned on asking Barack Obama if he would back up his assessment of the occupation of Iraq as illegal by supporting servicemembers who would thus be required to refuse service there. Kris Goldsmith planned on asking McCain about his history of failing to vote in favor of V.A. funding, especially since the beginning of the occupation of Iraq.


Non-violence was stressed in every stage leading up to this action. It was stressed by me and Kris to Det. Thomas J. Calvert and Det. Robert Annese of the Nassau County Police Department the day before the action. Calvert and Annese were in charge of security for the debate, and they assured us they would instruct their officers to respect the non-violent spirit of the action by using restraint towards peaceful veterans and demonstrators.


In every stage of planning, IVAW made every effort to keep all planned tactics and actions “above the table” so that the candidates, the media, the police and the country would know exactly what would happen if our demands were not met.


We were at Hofstra to force the issue that veterans and servicemembers are not being cared for or heard from by our government, and the candidates, CBS and the Nassau County Police Department couldn’t have proved us more correct.


We, the veterans and our supporters, stood together in solidarity, knowing the stakes were high. But a resolve echoed deep from with us to stand our ground and be heard. Twice these candidates had brushed us off, and thrice just wasn’t going to happen.


So at seven p.m. when we’d heard nothing from the moderators, IVAW made good on its promise to the candidates and Det. Calvert. We marched to the front gate of Hofstra, read our questions and peacefully proceeded into police lines.


Because these candidates cared more to hear from “Joe the Plumber” than veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, ten veterans went to jail and five civilian supporters joined us.


This upsets me, but I knew the risk, and if I must fall in defense of democracy, peace and justice, I offer my sacrifice willingly.


What infuriates me is the GROSS MISCONDUCT of the police in the process, much of which I believe to be illegal.


After my arrest, the police charged their horses onto a sidewalk and unprovokedly knocked my friend Nick Morgan, a veteran of Iraq, to the ground and trampled his face. They then arrested him, put a piece of gauze on his facewound and loaded him onto a bus headed for jail with the rest of the Hempstead 15.


After they brought Nick onto the bus and we the veterans identified him as exhibiting signs of a concussion and as needing immediate medical attention, our arresting officers laughed at us and told us Nick would receive no help unless he himself asked to go to the hospital, though Nick was barely conscience and completely disoriented at the time AND THE COPS KNEW IT!

We pointed out that as a result of a serious head injury, Nick wasn’t aware enough to speak for himself. The police responded with, “too bad.
”

After Nick stirred enough for us to instruct him to ask for medical attention, he was taken to a hospital, diagnosed with a fractured cheekbone, given nothing more than Motrin for the pain and brought to the Police Station where he sat chained to a bench for 5 hours with no further medical attention at all.


Additionally, police pulled other members and supporters of ours from the sidewalk and arrested them while horses spun in circles causing injury to most who couldn’t escape their paths.


All of this, I observed after arrest through the large windows of a bus we were detained in which was parked parallel to the demonstration and subsequent atrocities.


While on the bus, the officers mocked us, calling us idiots and whiners. When we arrived at the Nassau County Detention Center, the hazing did not cease.


One officer, when I brought up the prospect of speaking to a lawyer, threatened to, “put me in the back (jail),” where, “the big boys will pop your cherry!” When I asked this officer if he had just threatened an honorably discharged veteran of Afghanistan with prison rape and told him I wanted his name and rank, he refused and told me to look it up on the police report which the Nassau County Police Department has refused to provide us a copy of.


While detained, the three females who were arrested with us, including Marine Reserve Capt. Marlisa Grogan, were sexually harassed by the police who went so far as to hold Ids next to the chained womens' faces and make comments like, “you look like you came out of a Barbie magazine.
”

All night, they didn’t stop. “You’re cowards, you’re idiots,” they said. The hostility was thick and unwarranted.


“This non-violent protest stuff is retarded,” they said (as if they’d prefer the alternative).
“See how it got your friend’s face fucked up?”

Literally, they said this when they brought Nick in and chained him to the bench. The harassment only increased from there.


“Look at you friend’s face,” said one officer. “You’re responsible for that.” As if I gave to order to charge horses onto a crowded sidewalk.


I saw this same officer in the Colony diner where we went to eat after we were charged with disorderly conduct and released. He was with the one who threatened me with prison rape, and when I approached them respectfully and again asked for their names, he leapt to his feet, threw his finger in my face and began threatening to “beat my ass” if I didn’t drop it.


Afterward, one of his friends, also a police officer, approached me, accused me of being drunk and said I was about to get arrested again. I retorted that his accusations were false (considering I’d only gotten out of jail 30 minutes prior) and that I was only interested in learning the names of the officers who arrested and harassed us as I have the legal right to do. He responded with only his name, which he said was Peter Sikinger, but refused to reveal the names of his partners, though to his credit, he did back down from threatening me with arrest.


I am outraged at the egregious conduct of the Nassau Country Police Department and the failure of Det. Calvert to make good on his promise to “make things go as smoothly as possible.
”

But mostly, I must put this on the candidates.


Barack Obama and John McCain, you have failed to properly address the occupation of Iraq and veteran and servicemember issues in this campaign. You failed to hear from us, the veterans and servicemembers, at the conventions. Your overwhelming concern for “Joe the Plumber” at the final debate while veterans are killing themselves at a rate of 18 per month is inhumane to say the least.


The fact that you allowed your veterans to be arrested, brutalized and harassed for simply trying to be heard by you is inexcusable. Forever should your consciences be scarred for what you allowed to take place to veterans on American soil.


But our questions still stand, and we still demand answers.


Obama, are you ready to support members of the military refusing to participate in the occupation of Iraq which you have termed “illegal?”

McCain, as a veteran, how can you account for your abysmal failure to vote in favor of post-2003 legislation to fund the V.A.
which provides life saving services to men and women who gave all to serve this nation?

Besides which, you both owe the Hempstead 15 an apology. You owe Nick Morgan an apology for the reconstructive surgery he’ll be receiving and the permanent, violent altering of his face that is a result of your failure to hear from us.


You owe every veteran in history a public statement condemning the sidewalk trampling of Nick and Carlos Harris, an Iraq veteran, who also had his foot broken by a horse. As well Geoff Millard, a disabled veteran of Iraq with degenerative spine disease who was knocked to the ground, dragged from the sidewalk and arrested, and Nadine Lubka, one of our supporters, who was kicked in the face by a horse.


And we the people are not done forcing this issue.


I encourage every person who reads this to contact both the Obama and McCain campaigns and demand they answer our questions and condemn the actions of the police Wednesday night.


They don’t own this election, the media doesn’t own this election, we the people own this election, and we deserve to have our voices heard. Any candidate who disagrees with that statement is unworthy the Presidency of the United States of America.


Peace and Solidarity,

Sgt.
Matthis Chiroux
One of the Hempstead 15

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The Questions which we, the Veterans, wished to ask
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Senator McCain, on July 9th 2008 you were quoted saying "I've received every award from every major veterans organization in America but the reason why I have a perfect voting record from organizations like Veterans of Foreign Wars, the American Legion, and all the other Veterans Service Organizations is because of my support of them.
"
However, there are non-partisan Veterans Organizations such as the Disabled American Veterans (DAV), Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA), and the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) who've noted that you've consistantly voted against important issues such as increased VA funding in 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007. This summer, another Veterans Organization, Veterans for Common Sense filed suit against the VA and discovered that approximately 1000 Veterans under their care are attempting suicide each month, with an average of 17 succeeding every 30 days. Government surveys conclude that over 300,000 21st Century Warriors are currently suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, while only 67 thousand have been diagnosed with with PTSD, and less than half of those are collecting disablity benefits. Doctors and Nurses at the VA are struggling to treat the 2 million American Troops who've deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan.
What promises are you willing to make, as a Veteran, as a Senator, as a Presidential Candidate, to the Veterans of the United States to prove that you will ensure the VA is fully funded, staffed, and capable of preventing Troops from suffering as they are now, after they've served our great nation overseas?

-Sergeant Kristofer Goldsmith
Operation Iraqi Freedom III Veteran

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Senator Obama, you have said that the War and Occupation of Iraq is illegal. If by your words, it is illegal, then it is not only the right of service members such as myself to refuse deployment and participation in Iraq, it is also our responsibility.
Sir, as President, are you willing to go by your own words and back them up, and support servicemembers refusing to participate in what you have, in your own words, termed an "Illegal Occupation"?

-Sergeant Matthis Chiroux
Operation Enduring Freedom Veteran

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The Hempstead 15:
Matthis Chiroux (Army Sergeant)
Kristofer Goldsmith (Army Sergeant)
Adam Kokesh (Marine Sergeant)
Mike Spinnato (Marine Corporal)
Geoff Millard (Army Sergeant)
Marlisa Grogan (Marine Captain)
Nathan Peld (Navy, 1998-2004)
Nick Morgan (Army Sergeant)
James Gilligan (Marine Corps, 6 years)
Jose Vasquez (Army Staff Sergeant)
Ryan Olander
Paul Blasenheim
David M.
Disimino
Lianne Gillooly
Megan Day