Monday, September 22, 2008

Mob Rule

RE: robert de niro and dustin hoffman wagging the dog 4 war

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From: The War Of Terror
Date: 22 Sep 2008, 02:22

watch this if u haven't seen the movie - then watch the movie if u can find it




RE: Cheney Is Ordered to Preserve Records

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From: The Man Common
Date: 22 Sep 2008, 10:38

Cheney Is Ordered to Preserve Records

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A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of records from his time as vice president.

The decision by the judge, Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration’s legal position “heightens the court’s concern” that some records might not be preserved, Judge Kollar-Kotelly said.

A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Mr. Cheney and the Executive Office of the President to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.

In a 22-page opinion, Judge Kollar-Kotelly revealed that in recent days, lawyers for the Bush administration balked at a proposed agreement between the two sides on how to proceed with the case.

Mr. Cheney and the other defendants in the case, Judge Kollar-Kotelly wrote, “were only willing to agree to a preservation order that tracked their narrowed interpretation” of the Presidential Records Act.

The administration, the judge said, wanted any court order on what records are at issue in the suit to cover only the office of the vice president, not Mr. Cheney or the other defendants in the lawsuit.
The other defendants include the National Archives and the archivist of the United States.

In response to the ruling, a spokesman for Mr. Cheney, James R. Hennigan, said, “We will not have any comment on pending litigation.

The lawsuit stems from Mr. Cheney’s position that his office is not part of the executive branch of government.

This summer, Mr.
Cheney’s chief of staff, David S. Addington, told Congress that the vice president belongs to neither the executive nor legislative branch of government, but rather is attached by the Constitution to Congress. The vice president presides over the Senate.

The lawsuit alleges that the Bush administration’s actions over the past seven and a half years raise questions over whether the White House will turn over records created by Mr. Cheney and his staff to the National Archives in January.


RE: McCain's POW Cover Up (+video) [9-22-08]

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From: Tony ?
Date: 22 Sep 2008, 10:49

Thanks ~
circa.. 1967
Nicole~is READY!

Republicans Allege McCain Covered Up
His Collaboration with the North Vietnamese
While a POW

Mon, 2008-09-22 00:47
By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet

A 1992 video featuring a Republican senator, Republican congressman and top Capitol Hill staffers who worked on Vietnam prisoner of war and missing in action issues say John McCain collaborated with North Vietnamese while a POW, and then covered up that involvement to the detriment of POW/MIA families seeking access to classified Pentagon records about their own family members

The video raises probing questions about the 2008 Republican presidential nominee's war record, especially after McCain made his captivity a major part of his qualifications for the presidency at the Republican National Convention In 2004, the GOP focused on Democratic nominee John Kerry's war record to criticize his candidacy

To date, the video has been posted on a handful of blogs but has been ignored by the mainstream media While it features Republican stalwarts on POW/MIA issues, it also suggests that McCain's war records at the Pentagon and in North Vietnam would reveal potentially very controversial details about the GOP's presidential candidate

The nearly eight-minute video is posted on YouTube under "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain" It begins with the title, "1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs," and features ex-Sen Bob Smith (R-NH), Rep Robert Dornan (R-CA), senate staffers Tracy Usry, James Lucier, and military family members Lynn O'Shea, of the National Alliance of Families and retired Army Cpl Bob Dumas, whose brother was a POW lost in the Korean War, and Joseph Douglass, Jr, author of Betrayed, about America's missing POWs The video has no author credits

The footage begins with Douglass, Usry, O'Shea and Smith all saying that McCain worked to kill legislation that would have opened the Pentagon's classified archive of POW/MIA files "Many, many documents were held back for no reason," former Sen Smith said Dorman said legislation that passed the House with no opposing votes was single-handedly blocked in the Senate by McCain "On the Senate side, we had one person standing in the way," Dornan said, referring to McCain

Dumas then gave the reason why - the Pentagon's records would reveal McCain had collaborated with the Vietnamese "He didn't want nobody to check his background because a lot of POWs who were with him in the camp said he was a collaborator with the enemy," Dumas said "He gave the enemy information they wanted"

Lucier, identified as a former US Senate Chief of Staff, said "we do know that when he was over there, he cooperated with Communist news services in giving interviews that were not flattering to the United States" Usry, identified as US Senate Minority Staff former chief investigator, said "information shows that he made over 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese government"

Dornan said there were transcripts of other POWs reacting to McCain's false statements, saying, "Oh my God, is that Admiral McCain's son Is that the admiral's son? Is that Johnny, telling us that our principle targets are schools, orphanages, hospitals, temples, churches? That was Jane Fonda's line" Dornan said those transcripts are in war museums in North Vietnam, where McCain, as a senator, pressured the country not to release them or face opposition concerning normalization of relations with the United States

"McCain could not have wanted those to turn up in the middle of a presidential race," the ex-congressman said "He knows that I know that And a few other people know that That's why he was against Bob Dole's legislation"

Dornan then offered another interesting explanation why McCain refused an offer by the North Vietnamese to be released Dornan said those released first were collaborators, which would have ended McCain's military career and hurt the Navy, where his father commanded the Pacific fleet

"Nobody takes that one step beyond that," Dornan said, speaking of McCain's refusal to be released "If Admiral John McCain's son had accepted this princely status and come home in 1967, while others sat there for five years, what would the Navy have done with the son of an admiral who opted to get special treatment and come home? No Navy career No House seat No Senate seat It would have been the end of his career"

Steven Rosenfeld is a Senior Fellow at AlterNetorg, where he reports on elections from a voting rights perspective His books include Count My Vote: A Citizen's Guide to Voting (AlterNet Books, 2008), What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election (The New Press, 2006), and Making History in Vermont: The Election of a Socialist to Congress (Hollowbrook Publishing, 1992) An award-winning journalist, he has been a staff reporter at National Public Radio, Monitor Radio, TomPainecom, and at daily and weekly newspapers in Vermont

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