Tuesday, December 04, 2007

RE: RE-POST!Peace Recruiters barred from Public Schools in FL

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Peace Group Barred From Florida Schools
By Mark Weisenmiller
Inter Press Service

Tuesday 04 December 2007

Tampa, Florida - Public school districts in two Florida counties are refusing to allow members of a peace organisation to counter the presence of military recruiters by talking with high school students about options other than joining the service, according to a spokesperson for the group.

"They (the Manatee and Sarasota County School Districts) are saying that we can't go on their campuses because we aren't offering any sort of information on post-secondary opportunities," said Don Thompson, co-chairman of the Coalition of Concerned Patriots (CCP), a Florida-based peace group. "But that's an excuse because we tell the students that the Job Corps and the Peace Corps are possible opportunities for jobs."

"Some of the military recruiters (who visit students on high school campuses) aren't telling the truth about the ways of the military. We don't question the existence of the military; we question the duplicity of military recruiters," Thompson, a retired United Methodist minister, told IPS.

Under President George W. Bush's "No Child Left Behind" law, signed in 2002, public high schools must give military recruiters access to students, including their names, addresses and telephone numbers.

Parents and students can "opt out" of this requirement by filling out a form, but many are apparently unaware that they have the right to do so.

Numerous attempts by IPS to speak with members of the Manatee County School District were unsuccessful. However, Scott Ferguson, a spokesperson for the Sarasota County School District, argued that, "They (the CCP) are not directly offering job career opportunities."

"The difference is that the military recruiters are offering specific jobs," Ferguson told IPS. "I don't know if there's a direct correlation between the rise in unpopularity (of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq) and the number of requests by these (peace) organisations to visit school campuses. There certainly is no groundswell by these organisations to come to our schools."

Deborah Higgins, a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Education, said she was unaware of the controversy.

"This is the first that we've heard of this," Higgens told IPS.

The U.S. military is a vital part of Florida's economy. According to the Florida Defense Alliance (FDA), an organisation whose mission, as stated on its web site, "is to promote (military) base efficiencies and to further military missions in the state, while supporting its military families' quality of life", there are 24 military installations across the state.

This figure does not include the many more National Guard military units in Florida. A statewide economic analysis done by the FDA in 2002 estimated that military-related activities contributed a total of 21.7 billion dollars to Florida's economy.

Michael MacPherson, executive director of Veterans for Peace (VFP), which has 7,200 members in 123 active chapters in all 50 states, said, "We believe that the students should have all possible information given to them."

"We want to provide students with the full range of options, and the students listen to us because of our background of having served in the military," MacPherson told IPS.

Responding to a set of e-mail questions, Cynthia Rivers-Womack, a public affairs officer at the U.S. Army Recruiting centre in Jacksonville, Florida, said: "Before Army recruiters visit a campus, they make a point to comply with school policy regarding visitors on campus, which generally includes checking in with the front office staff as well as the guidance counselor."

"Visits can range from a table set up near the cafeteria, to a formal classroom presentation, to booths at school events such as football and basketball games. When allowable, Army recruiters have access to a rock climbing wall and laser-shot apparatus that can be set up in conjunction with certain visits to provide simulation of certain aspects of Army training and team building."

"Confrontations between such [peace] groups and recruiters on campuses is highly unlikely since they would not be allowed on school property," she said. "If there is a potential for confrontation in any venue between service members and the protesting public, service members are directed to stay clear of the service area and not to engage in confrontation."

She added that any recruiters who verbally harasses a student who expresses interest in joining the Army but later changes his or her mind "are subject to disciplinary action by their commander."

Compromises have been reached in other Florida school districts. In Pinellas County, the political seat of Clearwater, St. Petersburg, and other cities, about two and a half years ago, members of the Tampa Bay chapter of Veterans for Peace told members of the Pinellas County School Board (PCSB) that they wished to go on the campuses. The request was denied, said Dwight Lawton, a VFP volunteer involved in the matter.

"Eventually, we talked to all of the members of the Pinellas County School Board and we found that some of them were interested in what we had to say," he told IPS.

After several meetings, on Aug. 28 this year, the PCSB passed Policy 6.25 "Accessing High School Students Regarding Postsecondary Opportunities." The last sentence in Clause 1 of Policy 6.25 states that: "Other groups who desire to present an alternative to military service are granted equal access."

"In the end it was very anticlimactic. It passed through," said David Koperski, an attorney for the Pinellas County School District.

There are dozens of counter-recruitment groups operating across the country. Just last week, a group of high school students in Vermont organised a protest against military recruiters at their school. Three were arrested, along with 10 other peace activists.

Grissim Walker, an American Civil Liberties Union attorney in Sarasota County, Florida who is doing pro bono legal work for the CCP, said the fight for equal access was not over.

"We are always open to negotiations, but one possibility is litigation if no progress can be made in negotiations," he said.


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RE: ~ Decmeber 16th – Boston Tea Party ~ REPOST!!RE: ~ Decmeber 16th – Boston Tea Party ~ REPOST!!

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RE: Ron Paul on The View plus writeup on USA Today Blog

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Date: Dec 4, 2007 9:20 PM

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Thanks Erin

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On 'The View,' abortion discussion takes much of Ron Paul's time
Republican Rep. Ron Paul today became the first 2008 Republican presidential candidate to make an appearance on The View. According to ABC News' Z. Byron Wolf, much of Paul's 10-minute appearance was spent discussing abortion -- and the anti-abortion Paul "held his own" with the hosts, Wolf writes.

The Raw Story adds that "Paul was visibly agitated when co-host Joy Behar told him, 'you probably are not going to win and you know that,' then asked who among the Republicans he would be willing to vote for."

"You want those pro-war people to win?" Paul asked. "No, you don't. ... If they come around endorsing my anti-war views, and pro-free-markets and sound money, yeah I would consider it, but I don't have anybody now that I could vote for."

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RE: Ron Paul Interview With G4

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RE: Cisco Confirms Ability To Spy On VoIP Calls

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Cisco Confirms Ability To Spy On VoIP Calls
Computer World

Cisco confirmed it is possible to eavesdrop on remote conversations using Cisco VoIP phones. In its security response, Cisco says: "an attacker with valid Extension Mobility authentication credentials could cause a Cisco Unified IP Phone configured to use the Extension Mobility feature to transmit or receive a Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) audio stream."

Cisco adds that Extension Mobility authentication credentials are not tied to individual IP phones and that "any Extension Mobility account configured on an IP phone's Cisco Unified Communications Manager/CallManager (CUCM) server can be used to perform an eavesdropping attack."

The technique was described by Telindus researcher Joffrey Czarny at HACK.LU 2007 in Luxembourg in October.

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RE: Candidates@Google - Ron Paul

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Dear Ron Paul Supporters,

Consider spreading this video around after watching it. It's of Dr. Paul being interviewed at Google Headquarters back in July 2007. It's a long and complete interview. It was very professional with open dialog by Elliot Schrage as part of the company's Candidates@Google series.

Enjoy :)

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The link for cutting/pasting is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCM_wQy4YVg

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