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RE: Secession - It's about the money stupid

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From: Veritas (Latin For Truth)
Date: Jun 28, 2008 3:40 PM


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From: Aristocutionor
Date: Jun 28, 2008 5:25 AM


The Federal Reserve is neither federal nor does it have any reserves.



The US Government borrows money from foreign Countries to keep going towards dissolving the sovereignty of the US to be replaced by the "New World Order" - So what is the collateral for those loans??
re: Public Lands as Collateral for US Debt
http://www. aristocutionor. com/index. php?option=com_content&task=view&id=210&Itemid=168
John Kennedy was assassinated within months of signing an Executive Order abolishing the Federal Reserve..So was Lincoln, and Harding, and it was attempted on Andrew Jackson..by the banksters (that is FACT!!)

Please watch the videos below - you will understand the scam and why my prediction of your standard will be half of what it was in 2005 by 2012 is true..

Secession is both the moral and legal obligation of the States..The Federal Government due is "Acts" and legislation are in breach of contract with ALL the States' Constitutions and their Contracts of Statehood..

All the States would be MUCH better off without the Federal Government..The States can and should remain united with the Bill of Rights, freedom of travel and no tax on commerce between the States as the ties that bind..

There are literally MILLIONS of TONS of gold and silver in the western States..We can and should have gold and silver backed currency..

Secession from the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CORPORATION does not dissolve the united States of America or its Constitution - the primary law of the land..What secession does is dissolve the Federal Reserve, the IRS, many unconstitutional government agencies, and abolishes the infringements and usurpations of OUR individual and States' Rights..

Your State should follow the lead of Oklahoma in declaring a Sovereignty Resolution, and the Central and Eastern Counties of Oregon in filing a Writ of Secession -

Get with it..Protesting doesn't work, electing different people to the Federal Congress doesn't work - it needs to be torn down and rebuilt on the ORIGINAL Constitution that made US the greatest nation on earth - not the patsies of the banksters and "New World Order" agenda advocates that make up the MAJORITY of the Members of Congress - (they need to be charged with treason for not upholding their Oath of Office and imprisoned or hung by the neck til dead, according to the law of the land)..

Secede!! Or, rise up in armed revolt - those are your ONLY two viable options - Period!! - SECEDE!!! Remain the united States of America, but SECEDE from the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CORPORATION..It is illegal, and is in breach of contract with ALL the States - SECEDE!!! And have a better standard of living and restore your RIGHTS..

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Date: Jun 28, 2008 5:11 AM

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From: jahmir - Welcome to the new world
Date: Jun 28, 2008 12:48 AM


Revolution.









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RE: My Favorite Interview of all time`

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From: Freeagle
Date: Oct 19, 2007 3:03 PM


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From: Third Estate, Second Estate. No, United...States
Date: Oct 19, 2007 2:48 PM


I am not sure if this is the full hour long version or not
I don't have time to check right now as I am out the door but....I just quoted this in my Fox News Exposed.
As I often say

Aaron "How will you control the People"
Rockefeller "The Media"

and it has been done.



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From: Bryan
Date: Oct 19, 2007 5:44 PM


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From: Pan Man
Date: Oct 19, 2007 11:20 AM


A true and great American hero and Patriot! We owe this guy a bunch of love, respect and admiration! If we just had about 200 million more like him.....

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From: bigassbuzz - Has RON PAUL Fever!
Date: Oct 19, 2007 1:16 PM


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From: MAX FAN (LSU/Ron Paul/Cowboys/NASCAR)
Date: Oct 19, 2007 1:58 PM


It ain't about being a Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative folks. It's about the Federal Reserve Bank, the IRS and the United States Constitution!

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From: Nucleus
Date: Oct 19, 2007 11:48 AM


Check out this video: Aaron Russo interview with Alex Jones

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RE: Tax Protestor Ed Brown Gassed, Tortured In Deprivation Tank

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From: A Local Revolution (coming 2 UR city) by Leo K.
Date: Oct 17, 2007 6:16 PM


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From: Brian[RONPAUL2008.COM]
Date: Oct 17, 2007 5:15 PM

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Ed Brown Gassed, Tortured In Deprivation Tank
Tax protester speaks for first time since arrest in prison phone call

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, October 17, 2007

In a disturbing audio clip, Ed Brown speaks for the first time since his arrest and relates how he was gassed by noxious fumes for three days in a detention center as well as being put in a deprivation tank for 15 hours.

Shaun of MaketheStand.com was able to call the Ohio prison that Brown has been incarcerated in and talk with him on the phone for 10 minutes.

Sensory deprivation is a form of torture and extended deprivation can result in extreme anxiety, hallucinations, bizarre thoughts, depression, and antisocial behavior.

Brown also said he had been prevented from making any phone calls or receiving mail.

For the first time, Brown reveals what happened when he was tricked and arrested by U.S. Marshals, including how he was tasered multiple times.

Brown said that he had a chance to fight back during the arrest but that he did not want to hurt anyone.

Brown said his captors were treating him with "professional cruelty" and mentioned that they had also done harrowing things to his wife following her arrest, but refused to go into detail.

"I guess Ed and Elaine Brown, the elderly couple, really rattled their cages, we must be a real terror to the federal government, the corporate structure," said Brown.

Following our article about Ed Brown supporters fearing Brown was being mistreated or tortured, U.S. Marshal Stephen Monier dismissed it, saying, "That's absolutely ludicrous."

From what Ed Brown relates in the audio clip, it's abundantly clear that he is being cruelly mistreated.

Click here to listen to the MP3.

In a related development, Elaine Brown's son David told WMUR News that he has also been prevented from speaking to his mother.

FLASHBACK: Supporters Fear Ed Brown Is Being Tortured

RE: THERE IS NO LAW

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From: § Lori §
Date: Oct 5, 2007 11:20 AM


thanks: Durango Chemtrails
Date: Oct 5, 2007 9:53 AM


From: MAX FAN (Dale Jr. - Ron Paul '08)
Date: Oct 5, 2007 12:54 AM


~~ INCOME TAX IS VOLUNTARY - HERE'S A REAL TAX LAW ~~

For years the Patriot Movement has been demanding that the IRS and the Federal Government show the American People the law that makes them liable for a tax on their wages - The Income Tax Law. Let me show you what a REAL tax law looks like. I found this online at the Cornell Law School website HERE in 15 minutes.

Here's the tax laws on Distilled Spirits and Cigars:

Rate of tax -
(1) General
There is hereby imposed on all distilled spirits produced in or imported into the United States a tax at the rate of $13.50 on each proof gallon and a proportionate tax at the like rate on all fractional parts of a proof gallon.

Rate of tax -
(a) Cigars - On cigars, manufactured in or imported into the United States, there shall be imposed the following taxes:

(1) Small cigars
On cigars, weighing not more than 3 pounds per thousand, $1.828 cents per thousand ($1.594 cents per thousand on cigars removed during 2000 or 2001);

What's so hard about that. They didn't need to cut down a forest to print up that explanation, fairly simple and understandable isn't it? Don't even need a lawyer or accountant for that, do you?! Why don't they just show us the law like this that REQUIRES us to file (giving up our 5th Amendment protection) a return and pay a tax? Watch this..........this is why! (bookmark this page)


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RE: IRS loses challenge to prove tax liability

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From: A-Bomb
Date: Jul 26, 2007 12:09 PM


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From: Blaine
Date: Jul 26, 2007 9:05 AM


THE POWER TO DESTROY
IRS loses challenge to prove tax liability
Lawyer is acquitted after arguing income levy lacks legal foundation

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Posted: July 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Bob Unruh
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


The Internal Revenue Service has lost a lawyer's challenge in front of a jury to prove a constitutional foundation for the nation's income tax, and the victorious attorney now is setting his sights higher.

"I think now people are beginning to realize that this has got to be the largest fraud, backed up by intimidation and extortion and by the sheer force of taking peoples property and hard-earned money without any lawful authorization whatsoever," lawyer Tom Cryer told WND just days after a jury in Louisiana acquitted him of two criminal tax counts.

And before you consign him to the legions of "tin foil hat brigades" who argue against paying taxes, and then want payment to explain how to do that, he addresses the issue up front.

(Story continues below)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56855

RE: Ed and Elaine Brown's Jamboree a huge success thanks to DHS!

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From: Pan Man
Date: Jul 17, 2007 9:22 AM


Don't you just love it when the enemy volunteers for dumbass duty?

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From: .:Truth Seeker:.
Date: Jul 17, 2007 8:06 AM


From: Poker Face
Date: 17 Jul 2007, 01:35 AM

HOMELAND SECURITY CRASHES Poker Faces gig while playing @ THE BROWN'S LIVE FREE OR DIE Jamboree

[b]by Jack Blood[/b]

The local newspaper headlines rang with dire warnings for all who would attend the Live Free or Die jamboree held on Ed and Elaine Brown's front yard July 14th.

"That's an illegal gathering, and it's not a safe situation for anybody to really go to, and the people who go there have to realize that. . . . We can't say it's safe for anybody to go there. We will not send emergency vehicles into this area, no matter what." said Plainfield Police Chief Gordon Gillens.

Gillens also warned people in advance that no emergency services would be provided for concert goers as it was too dangerous to send them in to the area. Attendees were also warned that many would be armed and again were on there own if anything should turn ugly.

(The so called police presence was thin with only Chief Gillens, and officer O Sullivan at the bottom of the road, though reports of Federal officers coming and going were constant. The Brown's were kind enough to send the boys some hamburgers which they appreciated and consumed.)

Ed Brown responded by assuring the police that he didn't need any assistance by the city or state, and that we were perfectly capable of handling whatever might happen.

But assistance he received as airspace was closed over Plainfield through Boston and surrounding airports while a mysterious white helicopter circled the crowd of 200 for about 6 hours, flying so low at times it appeared to be coming in for a landing. At one point, after apparently refueling… The chopper returned appearing about 100 feet out of the trees. It must have been lying low in silent mode before it jumped out and buzzed the crowd. It felt like apocalypse now, Vietnam or Iraq.

The chopper was traced by its ubiquitous ID numbers N187AE as solo artist Dave Cahill was tearing through a blistering set on stage. With the help of GCN radio host Mike Rivero of www.whatreallyhappened.com we were able to determine that the helicopter was created exclusively for the US Government, and was registered to Homeland Security, and this was announced to the live audience and live web viewers.

Ed Brown at one point called the FAA to warn them that the chopper was too low, and could be in harm's way as a commercial fireworks show was planned for later that evening. It seems to be debatable at this time whose airspace DHS was operating in, state or federal. It would seem that DHS can and will do what they want just the same.

I had the opportunity to interview Chief Gillens about this and in fact it was news to him. Ironically, he wasn't in the loop until we alerted him to the situation regarding DHS. He had been superseded by the Feds repeatedly that day, and Gillens like the rest of us was at their mercy.

Maybe this was the culmination of Michael (the Devil) Chertoff's "gut Feeling" and concert goers were all relieved that any attempt by Al Qaeda to attack the Brown home would be thwarted by the DHS Chopper.

In my opinion it was incredibly clumsy to have sent this chopper to harass the Browns, and their guests as I was grateful for the expensive show of force on peace loving constitutionalists. If I could have I would have paid them to do it… It looked great for the many cameras ..ing the event, and must have been thrilling for those watching on the myriad of live web casts. A perfect example of what we are talking about, and succinct imagery to go with the anti police state music and message echoing throughout day. You really couldn't have planned it better I thought, and DHS played right into our hands.

At one point, as darkness closed in, and after hours of constant buzzing and low level hovering (no doubt recording every move we made for future reference) the crowd became bolder. Ed had gone down into a pasture for reconnaissance which was certainly concerning as the chopper with a sniper could have easily taken him out. Flanked by videographer Terry Melton, and backed up by myself and others proudly defying the DHS Chopper while holding banners for "From Freedom to Fascism" and making "certain" hand gestures…. The laugh was on them.

A spotlight war began as one Brown supporter hit the chopper with a high powered light beam while the white helicopter answered back with a flood of light of their own.

As for the event itself? It was an overwhelming success!

The music was excellent and perfectly placed. Opening the show was a message by Ed and Elaine who seemed overjoyed by the attention, and support. Dave Von Kliest of the GCN Morning show The Power Hour did a great job opening with his original tune, "Show Me The Law"

(All gave heart felt talks for the roaring crowd) next up was the cool organ driven tunes of Paperback Radio who came in by private bus from NJ and sounded awesome under the 80 degree sun.

The headliner Pokerface blistered the stage for 90 minutes playing many of their hits including "America", "the Watchmen" and and "Prayer For America"<

They're comming to take ME away, he he ha ha ho ho...

RE: "ED BROWN SUPPORTERS WILL BE ROUNDED UP"

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From: § Lori §
Date: Jun 29, 2007 4:47 PM


From: Subversionary
Date: Jun 29, 2007 3:42 PM


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Date: Jun 29, 2007 3:37 PM


http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2007/06/27/doj-ed-brown-supporters-will-be-rounded-up/

U.S. marshals in New Hampshire have made plans to arrest convicted tax protesters Ed and Elaine Brown of Plainfield, along with their supporters, according to an anonymous Justice Department source who also threatened this author with jail.

“Anyone who is going to carry out plans killing officers, agents, and government persons after Ed is arrested is in way over their head,” said the message, which was routed through a proxy server in a failed attempt to obscure its source. “If you continue to pursue these threats, you along with several of your fellow Ed supporters are going to jail. Ed is a convicted felon and several more are going to be rounded up in their stupity [sic].”

Ed and Elaine Brown stopped attending their tax evasion trial in January saying they could not receive a fair trial. They were convicted and sentenced in absentia to 63 months in prison each for various charges of tax evasion and money laundering. Since that time, the couple have remained in their home and vowed to resist with deadly force anyone who attempts to seize them and take them to prison.

Two weeks ago, I said here that while I don’t believe that shooting federal agents is the appropriate thing to do at this time, I support those who would challenge the income tax laws as they amount to nothing more than theft and slavery, and can never be legitimate, no matter how many judges agree.

How some desk jockey at the Department of Justice confused this with a threat of violence, I can’t tell.

Anyway, if you are an Ed Brown supporter, put your affairs in order. They’re probably going to try to take you away, too, whether you have made any threats of violence or not.

RE: Attorney serves notice on marshals to cease and desist in NH

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Date: Jun 15, 2007 2:52 PM


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Date: Jun 15, 2007 11:41 AM


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From: splitbabyniblet (FREEDOM NOT LIBERTY)
Date: Jun 15, 2007 2:31 PM



NOTICE AND DEMAND

TO CEASE AND DESIST

from whatreallyhappened.com




TO: Mr. Stephen R. Monier

c/o Office of the U.S. Marshal

Warren B. Rudman U.S. Courthouse

55 Pleasant Street, Suite 207

Concord 03301

NEW HAMPSHIRE, USA



FROM: Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.

Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a), Rotella v. Wood



DATE: June 15, 2007 A.D.



SUBJECT: Mr. Ed and Mrs. Elaine Brown



Greetings Mr. Monier:



This is to inform you formally and officially that my office legally represents the United States ex rel. in Tenth Circuit appeal #07-2017.



In that case, extensive verified evidence has already been admitted into that Court’s record, proving conclusively that there is no Statute at Large creating a specific liability for income taxes imposed by subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code (“IRC”).



The alleged “liability” was fabricated by the Internal Revenue Service, but there is no corresponding Act of Congress creating that specific liability for any income taxes imposed by IRC subtitle A.



Accordingly, even if the IRS were a de jure service, bureau, office or other subdivision of the U.S. Department of the Treasury (which they are NOT), they would still not have any authority to create a tax liability by means of regulations published in the Federal Register. See 31 U.S.C. 333; Commissioner v. Acker, 361 U.S. 87 (1959).



Moreover, you are hereby served with formal NOTICE that the constitutionality of IRC subtitle A, the federal Jury Selection and Service Act and the Act of June 25, 1948, has now been properly and formally challenged in that Tenth Circuit Appeal.



In the first instance, it is now the position of the United States ex rel. that the Jury Selection and Service Act is unconstitutional because it expressly discriminates against State Citizens by requiring that all jury candidates be federal citizens. The U.S. Supreme Court has already held that such “class discrimination” in jury selection is unconstitutional. There are two (2) classes of citizens in America.



Therefore, the Browns were never “indicted” by a lawfully convened federal grand jury, and they were never “convicted” by a lawfully convened federal trail jury. Both panels of federal citizens were not lawfully convened federal juries, in the first instance.



My office has not yet had an opportunity to review any of the court pleadings filed in the Browns’ case. Nevertheless, our 17 years of experience in State and federal litigation inform us that the U.S. Department of Justice routinely institutes criminal proceedings on behalf of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. However, the latter entity incorporated twice in Delaware, and both of those foreign corporations have now been revoked by the Delaware Secretary of State.



To make matters much worse, the long-standing rule in all federal litigation is that statutes conferring original jurisdiction on Federal District Courts must be strictly construed. The Article IV United States District Court has no criminal jurisdiction whatsoever. The general grant of criminal jurisdiction at 18 U.S.C. 3231 confers original jurisdiction upon the Article III District Courts of the United States, not on the Article IV United States District Courts.



We have enclosed a few key documents to substantiate every statement above, and full details are readily available from supporting links and related resources in the Supreme Law Library on the Internet here:



http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/williamson2/appeal/





DEMAND TO CEASE AND DESIST



Accordingly, formal demand is hereby made of you and all of your associates, accomplices and accessories of whatever description, to cease and desist immediately from any further attempts to apprehend the Browns or to trespass upon their fundamental Rights or private property in any manner whatsoever.



NOTICE OF INTENT



If you willfully violate this lawful NOTICE AND DEMAND TO CEASE AND DESIST, this is our formal NOTICE to you of our intent to lodge a VERIFIED CRIMINAL COMPLAINT, ON INFORMATION specifically naming you as a principal in a conspiracy to engage in a pattern of racketeering activities in connection with the Browns and in connection with any other attempts by your office to enforce a non-existent liability for IRC subtitle A “income taxes”, in violation of 18 U.S.C. 1962.



Notice to agents is notice to principals.

Notice to principals is notice to agents.



Thank you for your immediate cooperation.





Sincerely yours,



/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell



Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S.

Private Attorney General, Criminal Investigator and

Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13, 1964(a)

http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm

RE: Interview With Edward Brown On June 7, 2007

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From: Ed & Elaine
Date: Jun 9, 2007 12:39 AM


Taken from:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJpQTSh-z0

Interview With Edward Brown On June 7, 2007

An interview with Ed Brown, a Plainsfield resident convicted of tax evasion who refuses to surrender to authorities.

Yeah, Ron Paul only has internet help

RE: Video of Ron Paul Supporters Outside the Debate!

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From: Pamela's Protest
Date: Jun 6, 2007 11:15 PM


Video of Ron Paul Supporters Outside the Debate!

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From: Athena 911 Truth spearshaker
Date: Jun 6, 2007 8:10 PM


Video of Ron Paul Supporters Outside the Debate!

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From: forsytjr
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