RE: RE: 3rd CIA Officer Confirms Ron Paul On Roots of Terrorism

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RE: 3rd CIA Officer Confirms Ron Paul On Roots of Terrorism

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From: (R) Ron Paul 08' South Carolina
Date: Jun 15, 2007 10:45 AM


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*3rd CIA Officer Confirms Ron Paul On Roots of Terrorism*
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05/25/third-cia-officer-confirms-ron-paul-right-about-roots-of-terrorism/

For the third time this week, a retired CIA officer has told Antiwar Radio that U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East is the driving force in al Qaeda’s recruitment and motivation for attacking America on September 11th.

Ray McGovern, a 27 year veteran of the Central Intelligence Agency, when asked Friday afternoon what he thought of the exchange between Congressman Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani said (at 23:45 out of 43:23)

MP3 here.

“I’m really edified by Ron Paul stepping up and stating what he believes to be the case.

“If you believe that they hate us for our democracy or for our freedoms, well I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn that I’d really like to sell you at a cut rate.

“They hate us for our policies and that’s what Ron Paul was saying. …

“Giuliani … really showed his true colors there as a demagogue.”

Earlier this week Michael Scheuer, the former chief of the CIA’s bin Laden unit and Philip Giraldi, another former CIA counter-terrorism officer, made much the same statements to Antiwar Radio.

McGovern then made the common analogy of terrorists and mosquitos and why the policy should be to “drain the swamp.” But rather than advising more invasions in the name of swamp draining as the Bush administration has maintained is their policy, McGovern says you want to remove the circumstances which create terrorism, by “find[ing] out where these terrorists are breeding.”

“[There is a] swamp of grievances dating back decades: Three generations of people living in the equivalent of concentration camps in the West Bank and Gaza, dictatorial regimes in Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other places.

“If you look at those grievances and instead of trying to shoot those terrorists as they leave that swamp, you drain that swamp by addressing those grievances and giving these people some reason to hope for a better future. …

“People will come back and say, ‘Now Ray, for God’s sake, Osama bin Laden doesn’t give a darn about the Palestinians.’ Well, that doesn’t matter whether he does or he doesn’t. He knows the kind of resonance that kind of appeal has.”

McGovern then quoted the 9/11 Commission Report regarding the motivation of Kahlid Sheik Mohammad, the ringleader of the September 11th attacks:

“Kahlid Sheik Mohammad was motivated not by any antipathy resulting from his stay in the United States [where he had attended college years before], but by his profound hatred for U.S. policy toward Israel – favoring Israel one-sidedly.”

McGovern then summarized a footnote in the back of the 9/11 Commission Report as saying:

“These are practically the exact words of what Ramzi Yousef - Kahlid Sheik Mohammad’s nephew - used in bragging about his pride in being condemned to 140 years in a federal penitentiary for trying to knock down one of the Twin Towers back in 1993.”
http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/05/25/third-cia-officer-confirms-ron-paul-right-about-roots-of-terrorism/

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RE: Some facts about Google and Internet privacy

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Date: Jun 1, 2007 10:05 PM


Thanks to all below

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Date: Jun 1, 2007 9:43 PM


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From: Somoe
Date: 31 May 2007, 12:48


From: JB~)
Date: 31 May 2007, 20:05


The Ubiquitious: HECKTOR DANGUS, esq.
Date: 31 May 2007, 20:00

Matt Cutts, a software engineer at Google since January 2000, used to work for the National Security Agency.

Keyhole, the satellite imaging company that Google acquired in October 2004, was funded by the CIA.

"We are moving to a Google that knows more about you." — Google CEO Eric Schmidt, February 9, 2005

Since 2000, Google has recorded your search terms, the date-time of each search, the globally-unique ID in your cookie (it expires in 2038), and your IP address. This information is available to governments on request.

Scroogle
is a screen-scraping proxy for the Google search engine that circumvents Google's tracking of user activity via cookies and/or IP address. The site also allows users to perform Google searches without receiving Google advertisements. A Yahoo scraper is included. There is support for 28 languages, and Mozilla offers a Scroogle plugin for the Firefox search bar.

If you believe in internet privacy, you might want to click the link and bookmark the Scroogle Scraper page. Just maybe.

RE: Plame Sues C.I.A. for Blocking Her Memoir

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From: Wendy Bird
Date: Jun 1, 2007 8:44 AM


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/us/01plame.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Plame Sues C.I.A. for Blocking Her Memoir


By ADAM LIPTAK
Published: June 1, 2007

Valerie Wilson, the former intelligence operative at the heart of an investigation that reached into the White House, sued the Central Intelligence Agency in federal court in New York yesterday over its refusal to allow her to publish a memoir that would discuss how long she had worked for the agency.
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Doug Mills/The New York Times

Valerie Wilson, a former C.I.A. operative, contends that the dates she worked for the agency are in the public domain and no longer classified.

Although that information is set out in an unclassified letter to Ms. Wilson that has been published in the Congressional Record, the C.I.A. contends that her dates of service remain classified and may not be mentioned in “Fair Game,” the memoir Ms. Wilson hopes to publish in October.

C.I.A. employees sign agreements requiring them to submit manuscripts to the agency for permission before they are published, and Ms. Wilson’s suit said she spent 10 months working with agency officials on the book to avoid disclosing national security information. But the agency’s refusal to allow her to include material already in the public domain, the suit said, violates her right to free speech.

“The C.I.A.’s effort to classify public domain information is an unreasonable attempt at prior restraint of publication and a violation of our First Amendment rights,” said Adam Rothberg, a spokesman for Simon & Schuster, which plans to publish the book and is also a plaintiff in the suit.

First Amendment challenges to decisions by the C.I.A concerning its former employees’ proposed books and articles have not met with much success in the courts, which tend to focus on the terms of the employment agreements and to defer to the agency’s judgments about what information should be withheld from the public. But Ms. Wilson’s suit, which is narrowly focused on information already published in the Congressional Record, presents the more difficult question of when information that was once secret has entered the public record.

The C.I.A. acknowledged that the dates of Ms. Wilson’s employment had mistakenly been disclosed, although a spokesman said that did not mean the information was no longer classified.

“Frankly,” said the spokesman, Mark Mansfield, the release of the information in 2006, in response to a query from Ms. Wilson about retirement benefits, was “an honest-to-goodness administrative error.”

“The letter contained classified information and should not have been mailed to her,” Mr. Mansfield said, referring to Ms. Wilson. “As soon as it was discovered, we took steps to rectify the error, including notifying the clerk of the House of Representatives.”

The letter, from February 2006, was entered into the Congressional Record by Representative Jay Inslee, Democrat of Washington, in January 2007. Mr. Inslee was introducing legislation to allow Ms. Wilson to qualify for a government annuity.

The letter said that Ms. Wilson had worked for the government since Nov. 9, 1985, for a total of “20 years, 7 days,” including “six years, one month and 29 days of overseas service.”

Christine Hanson, a spokeswoman for Mr. Inslee, said the congressman had assured himself that the document was not classified before disclosing it.

“It’s very much part of the public domain,” Ms. Hanson said. “If they’re upset about it, they should have made that determination before they gave the letter to her. They’re trying to get the cat back into the bag.”

Since the publication of the letter in the Congressional Record, the C.I.A. has repeatedly demanded that Ms. Wilson return all copies of it.

The agency receives about 100 submissions a month from former employees and others who have had access to classified information, Mr. Mansfield said, ranging from short opinion articles to lengthy books. “The sole yardstick for prepublication review,” he said, “has been and remains that their writings contain no classified information.”

The C.I.A. has been adamant in refusing to confirm the dates or details of Ms. Wilson’s service before 2002. In July 2003, the syndicated columnist Robert Novak disclosed her identity as “an agency operative on weapons of mass destruction.” Mr. Novak referred to Ms. Wilson by her maiden name, Valerie Plame.

The investigation into that disclosure led to the conviction of I. Lewis Libby Jr., formerly Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff, on perjury and obstruction of justice charges in March.

On Friday, the special prosecutor in the case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, submitted an unclassified summary of Ms. Wilson’s “C.I.A. employment and cover history” to the judge who will sentence Mr. Libby.

It was limited to the four years starting in 2002. In the summary, the agency said it chose to make information about Ms. Wilson’s service public to aid Mr. Fitzgerald, but it did not say why it selected 2002 as its cutoff. A trip undertaken for the C.I.A. in February 2002 by Joseph C. Wilson IV, a former diplomat and Ms. Wilson’s husband, has been the subject of intense scrutiny.

The summary said that Ms. Wilson was a covert C.I.A. employee at the time of Mr. Novak’s disclosure. Between the beginning of 2002 and Ms. Wilson’s resignation from the agency at the end of 2005, the summary said, she traveled overseas “under a cover identity, sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias” at least “seven times to more than 10 countries.”

The summary said that the C.I.A. did not acknowledge “any other period of employment, if any, nor does it declassify the nature and details of Ms. Wilson’s cover.”

Through a spokesman, Ms. Wilson declined to comment.

Asked if the dispute over the dates of Ms. Wilson’s tenure were the key to allowing the book to be published, an intelligence official responded obliquely.

“Official acknowledgment of certain matters could cause some on whom we rely to think that we do not take protecting sensitive equity seriously or cause them to think twice about assisting us in the future, and that could have serious ramifications,” the official said.

In an April 19 letter, the lawsuit said, the agency said that “with limited exceptions” the classified information to which the agency objects “relates to a single issue,” although it did not specify the issue.

Mr. Rothberg, of Simon & Schuster, said the dates of Ms. Wilson’s service were “just one item in the publication review process, but it’s one we feel strongly about.” The publisher is said to have paid about $2 million for the book, a figure Mr. Rothberg would not confirm.

RE: RE: PURPOSE OF CHEMTRAILS - AC GRIFFITH

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RE: WHY did FBI, NSA, or CIA delete Cho Seung-Hui's Myspace ?

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From: RFK Jr. 2008
Date: Apr 22, 2007 10:00 AM


How can you tell that they deleted it ???
Easy.
Go to Search.
Under "Find Someone You Know"
Enter Cho's hotmail address in the search function and check email. What happens ???
(The press revealed that one of Cho's email addresses was
BLAZERS5505@HOTMAIL.COM so do a search of Blazers5505 if you doubt the veracity of my claim.)http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3064807
What happens ???
Well usually if you have a "hit" the profile will come up with your default photo. (try it with your own email address)
What happens when you enter Cho Seung-Hui's email address ?
You get a "hit".
"Find a Friend
Results for BLAZERS5505@HOTMAIL.COM 1 of 1"

AND NO PHOTO OR LINK TO THE PROFILE associated with that email address. ALSO, if you check out his first victim's myspace profile, the profile for Emily Hilscher (http://www.myspace.com/captivepixie)
you'll notice that she supposedly has 9 Myspace friends AND yet if you click to view all of her Myspace friends, only 8 are visible. ALSO, somebody logged into her profile AFTER she died. ALSO, check out her profile.
Then think about the image the media has been forcing down your throat about her. Could it be that the 9th friend who is missing is Cho's profile ? ALL is not as it seems people.
ALL is not as it seems.

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RE: Outside the Box 97: Consciousness & awareness...

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From: Leo/FightNWO-Resisting World Government
Date: Apr 18, 2007 12:05 AM


ADDalex

Outside the Box #97

59 min 48 sec - Apr 12, 2007

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3600474795095059629&q=Alex+Ansary


Alex talks with Solara (www.nvisible.com) about her thoughts on consciousness and awareness in the 21 century. She also discussed her thoughts on a mystery known as 11:11 activations.

Later Alex covers the recent reports highlighting CIA covert operations in Iran, the new 90 page UK Ministry of Defense report, and the future of the bionic warriors in our military.